On Wed, Jan 15, 2014 at 1:22 AM, Eric A Louie <elo...@yahoo.com> wrote: > Thank you - I will heed the warning. I want to be a good community member > and make sure we're maintaining the agreed-upon practices (I'll > re-read/review my agreement with the IXP) > > > So if that is the case, I have to rely on the peering fabric to just return > traffic, since the rest of my network (save the directly connected router) > will not know about those routes outbound? And what about my customers who > are counting on me routing their office traffic through my network into the > peering fabric to their properties? (I have one specifically who is > eventually looking for that capability) Do I have to provide them some sort > of VPN to make that happen across my network to the peering fabric router? >
perhaps I'm confused, but you have sort of this situation: ixp-participants -> ixp -> your-router -> your-network -> your-customer you get routes for ixp-participants from 'ixp' you send to the 'ixp' (and on to 'ixp-participants') routes for 'your-customer' and 'your-network' right? then so long as you send 'your-customer' the routes you learn from 'ixp' (which you set 'next-hop-self' on in ibgp from 'your-router' to 'your-network' (in the ibgp-mesh that you will setup) ... everything just works. All routers behind 'your-router' in 'your-netowrk' see 'ixp-participants' with a next-hop of 'your-router' who still knows 'send to ixp!' for the route(s) in question. > > > >>________________________________ >> From: Patrick W. Gilmore <patr...@ianai.net> >>To: NANOG list <nanog@nanog.org> >>Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2014 7:11 PM >>Subject: Re: best practice for advertising peering fabric routes >> >> >>Pardon the top post, but I really don't have anything to comment below other >>than to agree with Chris and say rfc5963 is broken. >> >>NEVER EVER EVER put an IX prefix into BGP, IGP, or even static route. An IXP >>LAN should not be reachable from any device not directly attached to that >>LAN. Period. >> >>Doing so endangers your peers & the IX itself. It is on the order of not >>implementing BCP38, except no one has the (lame, ridiculous, idiotic, and >>pure cost-shifting BS) excuse that they "can't" do this. >> >>-- >>TTFN, >>patrick >> >> >>On Jan 14, 2014, at 21:22 , Christopher Morrow <morrowc.li...@gmail.com> >>wrote: >> >>> On Tue, Jan 14, 2014 at 9:09 PM, Cb B <cb.li...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> On Jan 14, 2014 6:01 PM, "Eric A Louie" <elo...@yahoo.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> I have a connection to a peering fabric and I'm not distributing the >>>> peering fabric routes into my network. >>>>> >>> >>> good plan. >>> >>>>> I see three options >>>>> 1. redistribute into my igp (OSPF) >>>>> >>>>> 2. configure ibgp and route them within that infrastructure. All the >>>> default routes go out through the POPs so iBGP would see packets destined >>>> for the peering fabric and route it that-a-way >>>>> >>>>> 3. leave it "as is", and let the outbound traffic go out my upstreams and >>>> the inbound traffic come back through the peering fabric >>>>> >>>>> >>> >>> 4. all peering-fabric routes get next-hop-self on your peering router >>> before going into ibgp... >>> all the rest of your network sees your local loopback as nexthop and >>> things just work. >>> >>>>> Advantages and disadvantages, pros and cons? Recommendations? >>>> Experiences, good and bad? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> I have 5 POPs, 2 OSPF areas, and have not brought iBGP up between the >>>> POPs yet. That's another issue completely from a planning perspective. >>>>> >>>>> thanks >>>>> Eric >>>>> >>>> >>>> http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc5963 >>>> >>>> I like no-export >>> >> >> >> >> >>