On Mar 13, 2014 7:37 PM, "Larry Sheldon" <larryshel...@cox.net> wrote: > > On 3/13/2014 8:22 AM, Sholes, Joshua wrote: >> >> On 3/13/14, 12:35 AM, "shawn wilson" <ag4ve...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> A note on terminology - whether you know what you're doing, actually break >>> into a system, or obtain a thumb drive with data that you weren't supposed >>> to have - it has the same end so I'd refer to it by the same term - >>> hacking. Trying to differentiate terms based on skill, target, or data >>> type is kinda dumb. >> >> >> If one came up in this field with a mentor who was old school, or if one >> is old school oneself, one tends use the original (as I understand it) >> definitions--a "cracker" breaks security or obtains data unlawfully, a >> "hacker" is someone who likes ethically playing (in the "joyful >> exploration" sense) with complicated systems. >> >> People who are culturally younger tend use "hacker", as you are doing, for >> the former and as far as I can tell no specific term for the latter. >> >> If you ask me, this is something of a cultural loss. > > > Not sure I can agree with that. I have been in this game for a very long time, but for most of it in places where the world's population cleaved neatly into two parts: "Authorized Users" who could be identified by the facts that they had ID cards, Badges, and knew the door code; and "trespassers" who were all others. > > Then you new kids came along and (pointlessly, in my opinion) divided the later group into the two described above. >
Sorry for my note. Didn't mean it to sidetrack the question (I probably should've). /me o_O