Bob Evans CTO > > > On 3/24/14 9:12 PM, "Bob Evans" <[email protected]> wrote: > >> >>I agree with "one" thing herein.... >> >>> In order for IPv6 to truly work, everyone needs to be moving towards >>>IPv6. >> >>Yep, chicken and the egg. I agree. We built an IPv6 "native" network - no >>tunneling - no customers to speak of ... didn't even bother to start IPv6 >>peering on it. > > How would there be traffic if you have no peering?
4 IPv6 transits and a handful of customers. Today, we only provide fiber service to businesses. Tiny traffic - no IPv6 peering at IX locations. > > >> >>An there you have it, how much is someone willing to pay for space in the >>Internet casino. Well, it's much more than free and probably close to the >>dollar level in the presentation by Lee Howard at an ARIN meeting (I >> think >>it was in Barbados or maybe I have that meeting place wrong and it was >>NANOG) ... Well, $40/month per IP address will be the pain level for all >>customers to finally cash-in the IPv4 chips and move to IPv6. > > I wish it was Barbados! > NANOG56. > http://www.nanog.org/meetings/nanog56/presentations/Wednesday/wed.general.h > oward.24.wmv > > Thanks Lee, I was hunting for that link. > >> >>Thus far, IPv6 has been the "Field of Dreams" .... those of us who have >>built it, we know they have not yet come (the IPv6 customers). That's >>all this discussion is really about is "when will they come". > > Some of us have quite a few IPv6 customers: > http://www.worldipv6launch.org/measurements/ > And we see significant traffic from those users. :-) > Maybe my isolation in silicon valley causes me to have a different IPv6 experience. Not much IPv6 happening here. I heard Google my have topped over 2% traffic that is IPv6. Significant ? Not from where I am sitting. > >> >>I know the core of the Internet will be IPv4 for many years. All one has >>to do is talk to a few customer to find out that they are in no hurry. >>It's a no-brainer, because , none of us charges a customer more than than >>lunch money for an IPv4 address. > > Depends on what you mean by "core." For some values of "core," the > Internet is already dual-stack. > >> >>Now, if you tell me all the porn site owners were great net citizens, >>ready to move to IPv6 and shut off IPv4 access, well then I can see >> things >>moving along much faster. > > Feel free to offer them a discount for dual-stack, and a deeper discount > for IPv6-only. > Unfortunately, I don't know any porn site operators, so I haven't been > able to have conversations with them about the economics of IPv6. > We give away the IPv6 to every business on a second port - to make their life easy and encourage them to play with it. Unfortunately, few try it at all. Bob > Lee > > >
