No, they just intercept whatever gear you do purchase before it gets to your 
loading dock and then seal it back up with their modifications.

Matthew Kaufman

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> On May 13, 2014, at 11:01 AM, Owen DeLong <o...@delong.com> wrote:
> 
> I didn’t see the NSA telling us what we had to buy are demanding advance 
> approval rights on our maintenance procedures.
> 
> Owen
> 
>> On May 13, 2014, at 9:34 AM, Patrick W. Gilmore <patr...@ianai.net> wrote:
>> 
>> Don't get me wrong, I'm not a fan of this. But at least they did it in the 
>> open, unlike the NSA (where you live).
>> 
>> -- 
>> TTFN,
>> patrick
>> 
>>> On May 13, 2014, at 12:12 , Owen DeLong <o...@delong.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Yep… If I had infrastructure in NZ, that would be enough to cause me to 
>>> remove it.
>>> 
>>> Owen
>>> 
>>>> On May 13, 2014, at 6:33 AM, Paul Ferguson <fergdawgs...@mykolab.com> 
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
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>>>> I realize that New Zealand is *not* in North America (hence NANOG),
>>>> but I figure that some global providers might be interested here.
>>>> 
>>>> This sounds rather... dire (probably not the right word).
>>>> 
>>>> "The new Telecommunications (Interception Capability and Security) Act
>>>> of 2013 is in effect in New Zealand and brings in several drastic
>>>> changes for ISPs, telcos and service providers. One of the country's
>>>> spy agencies, the GCSB, gets to decide on network equipment
>>>> procurement and design decisions (PDF), plus operators have to
>>>> register with the police and obtain security clearance for some staff.
>>>> Somewhat illogically, the NZ government pushed through the law
>>>> combining mandated communications interception capabilities for law
>>>> enforcement, with undefined network security requirements as decided
>>>> by the GCSB. All network operators are subject to the new law,
>>>> including local providers as well as the likes of Facebook, Google,
>>>> Microsoft, who have opposed it, saying the new statutes clash with
>>>> overseas privacy legislation."
>>>> 
>>>> http://yro.slashdot.org/story/14/05/13/005259/new-zealand-spy-agency-to-vet-network-builds-provider-staff
>>>> 
>>>> FYI,
>>>> 
>>>> - - ferg
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> - -- 
>>>> Paul Ferguson
>>>> VP Threat Intelligence, IID
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