This is a smart group. If if that was true I think every internet site / 
service one visits from home would be a negatively impacted.  That is not the 
case

As I said before, Comcast also has over 40 balanced peers with plenty of 
capacity.  Wholesale $$ are very small, highly competitive and only "skin in 
the game" to promote efficiencies

      - Kevin


> On May 15, 2014, at 12:01 PM, "Jared Mauch" <ja...@puck.nether.net> wrote:
> 
> 
>> On May 15, 2014, at 11:50 AM, McElearney, Kevin 
>> <kevin_mcelear...@cable.comcast.com> wrote:
>> 
>> There is no gaming on measurements and disputes are isolated and temporary 
>> with issues not unique over the history of the internet.  I think all the 
>> same rhetorical quotes continue to be reused
> 
> Kevin,
> 
> in the past most issues were transient for a few months as both sides got 
> complaints, but while at RIPE earlier this week someone commented to me: 
> there's no one provider you can buy access from to get a packet-loss free 
> connection to all their other business partners/customers.  This hurts the 
> entire marketplace when there is persistent congestion.
> 
> Some of these issues are related to (as Craig called them) "Hypergiants" 
> (OTT) but others are due to providers having poor capital models so they 
> don't have "budget" for upgrading unless someone pays for that upgrade, vs 
> seeing their existing customer base as that source for the capital.
> 
> As an engineer, I'm hopeful that those responsible for budgeting will do the 
> right thing.  As a greedy capitalist, please pay me more $$$.  It does feel a 
> bit like tic-tac-toe with zero players in wargames though, the only way to 
> win is to not play [games].
> 
> - Jared
> 

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