Different (configuration) strokes for different folks. I look at a Cisco interface now and say, "Who the hell would use this?" despite my decade old Cisco training.
I was corrected offlist that Vyatta does do MPLS now... but I can't find anything on it doing VPLS, so I guess that's still out. The 5600's license (according to their SDNCentral performance report) appears to be near $7k whereas MT you can get a license for $80. ----- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul S." <cont...@winterei.se> To: nanog@nanog.org Sent: Monday, January 26, 2015 8:10:54 PM Subject: Re: scaling linux-based router hardware recommendations Like Mike mentioned, the feature list in RouterOS is nothing short of impressive -- problem is that pretty much everything in there is inherently buggy. That and one hell of a painful syntax-schema to work with too. On 1/27/2015 午前 10:57, Tony Wicks wrote: > And the solution to this issue is - http://routerboard.com/ or > http://www.mikrotik.com/software# on x86 hardware, plus any basic layer2 > switch. Don't scoff until you have tried it, the price/performance is pretty > staggering if you are in the sub 20gig space. > > -----Original Message----- > From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-boun...@nanog.org] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett > Sent: Tuesday, 27 January 2015 2:44 p.m. > To: nanog@nanog.org > Subject: Re: scaling linux-based router hardware recommendations > > Aren't most of the new whitebox\open source platforms based on switching and > not routing? I'd assume that the "cloud-scale" data centers deploying this > stuff still have more traditional big iron at their cores. > > The small\medium sized ISP usually is left behind. They're not big enough to > afford the big new hardware, but all of their user's NetFlix and porn and > whatever else they do is chewing up bandwidth. For example, the small\medium > ISPs are at the Nx10GigE stage now. The new hardware is expensive, the old > hardware (besides being old) is likely in a huge chassis if you can get any > sort of port density at all. > > 48 port GigE switches with a couple 10GigE can be had for $100. A minimum of > 24 port 10GigE switches (except for the occasional IBM switch ) is 30x to 40x > times that. Routers (BGP, MPLS, etc.) with that more than just a couple > 10GigEs are even more money, I'd assume. > > I thought vMX was going to save the day, but it's pricing for 10 gigs of > traffic (licensed by throughput and standard\advanced licenses) is really > about 5x - 10x what I'd be willing to pay for it. > > Haven't gotten a quote from AlcaLu yet. > > Vyatta (last I checked, which was admittedly some time ago) doesn't have > MPLS. > > The FreeBSD world can bring zero software cost and a stable platform, but no > MPLS. > > Mikrotik brings most (though not all) of the features one would want... a > good enough feature set, let's say... but is a non-stop flow of bugs. I don't > think a week or two goes by where one of my friends doesn't submit some sort > of reproducible bug to Mikrotik. They've also been "looking into" DPDK for > 2.5 years now. hasn't shown up yet. I've used MT for 10 years and I'm always > left wanting just a little more, but it may be the best balance between the > features and performance I want and the ability to pay for it. > > > > > ----- > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions > http://www.ics-il.com > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Mehmet Akcin" <meh...@akcin.net> > To: "micah anderson" <mi...@riseup.net> > Cc: nanog@nanog.org > Sent: Monday, January 26, 2015 6:06:53 PM > Subject: Re: scaling linux-based router hardware recommendations > > Cumulus Networks has some stuff, > > http://www.bigswitch.com/sites/default/files/presentations/onug-baremetal-2014-final.pdf > > > Pretty decent presentation with more details you like. > > Mehmet > >> On Jan 26, 2015, at 8:53 PM, micah anderson <mi...@riseup.net> wrote: >> >> >> Hi, >> >> I know that specially programmed ASICs on dedicated hardware like >> Cisco, Juniper, etc. are going to always outperform a general purpose >> server running gnu/linux, *bsd... but I find the idea of trying to use >> proprietary, NSA-backdoored devices difficult to accept, especially >> when I don't have the budget for it. >> >> I've noticed that even with a relatively modern system (supermicro >> with a 4 core 1265LV2 CPU, with a 9MB cache, Intel E1G44HTBLK Server >> adapters, and 16gig of ram, you still tend to get high percentage of >> time working on softirqs on all the CPUs when pps reaches somewhere >> around 60-70k, and the traffic approaching 600-900mbit/sec (during a >> DDoS, such hardware cannot typically cope). >> >> It seems like finding hardware more optimized for very high packet per >> second counts would be a good thing to do. I just have no idea what is >> out there that could meet these goals. I'm unsure if faster CPUs, or >> more CPUs is really the problem, or networking cards, or just plain >> old fashioned tuning. >> >> Any ideas or suggestions would be welcome! >> micah >>
