Daniel, The sold speeds are all actually less than the actual speeds. The PON customers are slightly over provisioned and the DOCSIS customers are over provisioned a bit more. On Mar 2, 2015 10:01 AM, "Daniel Taylor" <dtay...@vocalabs.com> wrote:
> What do those 25 and 50Mb/s download rates amount to in practice? > > Statistically speaking, those might *be* symmetric. > > On 03/02/2015 08:41 AM, Scott Helms wrote: > >> >> Daniel, >> For the third or fourth time in this discussion we are tracking and >> customer satisfaction for users who do have symmetrical bandwidth >24 mbps >> and have for a number of years. >> >> We see customer usage patterns and satisfaction being statically the same >> on 25/25 and 25/8 accounts. The same is true when we look at 50/50 versus >> 50/12 accounts. >> >> On Mar 2, 2015 9:22 AM, "Daniel Taylor" <dtay...@vocalabs.com <mailto: >> dtay...@vocalabs.com>> wrote: >> >> I'm clearly not a normal user, or I wouldn't be here. >> Normal users have never experienced high-speed symmetrical service. >> >> People don't miss what they have never had. >> >> On 03/02/2015 08:09 AM, Scott Helms wrote: >> >> >> That's not the norm for consumers, but the important thing to >> understand is that for most of the technologies we use for >> broadband there simply is less upstream capacity than >> downstream. That upstream scarcity means that for DSL, >> DOCSIS, PON, WiFi, and LTE delivering symmetrical upstream >> bandwidth will cost the service provider more which means at >> some point it will cost consumers more. >> >> WiFi is a special case, while there is no theoretical reason >> it must be asymmetrical but it works that way in practice >> because dedicated APs invariably have both higher transmit >> power and much better antenna gain. The average AP in the US >> will put out a watt or more while clients are putting out ~250 >> milliwatts and with 0 antenna gain. >> >> On Mar 2, 2015 8:58 AM, "Daniel Taylor" <dtay...@vocalabs.com >> <mailto:dtay...@vocalabs.com> <mailto:dtay...@vocalabs.com >> <mailto:dtay...@vocalabs.com>>> wrote: >> >> Personally? >> If the price were the same, I'd go with 50/50. >> >> That way my uploads would take even less time. >> >> It isn't about the averaged total, it's about how long >> each event >> takes, and backing up 4GB of files off-site shouldn't have >> to take >> an hour. >> >> On 02/27/2015 03:11 PM, Scott Helms wrote: >> >> Daniel, >> >> >> "50MB/s might be tough to fill, but even at home I can get >> good use out of the odd 25MB/s upstream burst for a >> few minutes." >> >> Which would you choose, 50/50 or 75/25? My point is >> not that >> upstream speed isn't valuable, but merely that demand >> for it >> isn't symmetrical and unless the market changes won't >> be in >> the near term. Downstream demand is growing, in most >> markets >> I can see, much faster than upstream demand. >> >> >> >> Scott Helms >> Vice President of Technology >> ZCorum >> (678) 507-5000 <tel:%28678%29%20507-5000> >> <tel:%28678%29%20507-5000> >> -------------------------------- >> http://twitter.com/kscotthelms >> -------------------------------- >> >> >> >> -- Daniel Taylor VP Operations Vocal >> Laboratories, Inc. >> dtay...@vocalabs.com <mailto:dtay...@vocalabs.com> >> <mailto:dtay...@vocalabs.com <mailto:dtay...@vocalabs.com>> >> http://www.vocalabs.com/ (612)235-5711 <tel:%28612%29235-5711> >> <tel:%28612%29235-5711> >> >> >> >> -- Daniel Taylor VP Operations Vocal >> Laboratories, Inc. >> dtay...@vocalabs.com <mailto:dtay...@vocalabs.com> >> http://www.vocalabs.com/ (612)235-5711 <tel:%28612%29235-5711> >> >> > > -- > Daniel Taylor VP Operations Vocal Laboratories, Inc. > dtay...@vocalabs.com http://www.vocalabs.com/ (612)235-5711 > >