Carrier oem churn (turnover /agitation cycles) First mover for features happen and leapfrog but the ones that matter get adopted across the line in time.
> On May 7, 2015, at 8:40 PM, Josh Reynolds <j...@spitwspots.com> wrote: > > What churn rates are you talking about? > > Josh Reynolds > CIO, SPITwSPOTS > www.spitwspots.com > >> On 05/07/2015 05:36 PM, Watson, Bob wrote: >> Many of these churn rates result from problems self inflicted hence all the >> dramatic sdn promises, popularity in abstractions, Api all the things, let's >> go yang/netconf and retrofit every ietf standard. There's benefits but >> gotta rant a little. What's better than correct? Well over correct of course. >> >> >> >> >>> On May 7, 2015, at 12:17 PM, Josh Reynolds <j...@spitwspots.com> wrote: >>> >>> You know where these people wouldn't fit? W/ISPs. >>> >>> Every three years or so you are forklifting the majority of your wireless >>> PtMP for either a new series or a totally different vendor. New backhaul >>> vendors often. You're building AC and DC power plants. You likely touch >>> Cisco, juniper, HP, mikrotik, ubiquiti, Linux, windows, *BSD/pfsense, >>> lucent, accedian/ciena, etc due to various client and network requirements >>> all in the same week, AND you have to make them work together nicely :) >>> >>> It's not the environment for somebody like that, and I truly don't >>> understand how people of that.. "caliber" end up working on large scale >>> WANs and global transit networks. >>> >>> Frankly, it scares me a bit. >>> >>>> On May 7, 2015 9:07:35 AM AKDT, Craig <cvulja...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> we do "cry" when we interview people that claim to have "advanced >>>> knowledge" of BGP and we ask them some very basic BGP questions, and we >>>> get >>>> a blank stare..... >>>> >>>> On Thu, May 7, 2015 at 12:49 PM, Rob Seastrom <r...@seastrom.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Josh Reynolds <j...@spitwspots.com> writes: >>>>> >>>>>> It really bothers me to see that people in this industry are so >>>>>> worried about a change of syntax or terminology. If there's one >>>>>> thing about the big vendors that bothers me, it's that these >>>>>> batteries of vendor specific tests have allowed many "techs" to get >>>>>> lazy. They simply can't seem to operate well, if at all, in a >>>>>> non-Cisco (primarily) environment. >>>>> If that bothers you, I recommend you not look at what passes for a >>>>> "system administrator" these days. It will make you cry. >>>>> >>>>> -r >>> -- >>> Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. >