I think more focus needs to be for carriers to deliver dual stack to their 
customers door step, whether they demand/use it or not. Small ISPs are probably 
in the best position to do this and will help push the big boys along with 
time. If we follow the network effect (reason why IPv4 lives and IPv6 is slowly 
growing), IPv6 needs more nodes, all other efforts are meaningless if they do 
not result in more users having IPv6 delivered to their door. 

I think people get too lost in the weeds when they start focusing on device 
support, home router support, user knowledge, etc. Just get it working to the 
people and we can figure out the rest later.




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From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-boun...@nanog.org] On Behalf Of Mark Andrews
Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2015 6:01 PM
To: Matthew Newton <m...@leicester.ac.uk>
Cc: nanog@nanog.org
Subject: Re: How to force rapid ipv6 adoption


In message <20151001232613.gd123...@rootmail.cc.le.ac.uk>, Matthew Newton 
writes:

Additionally it is now a OLD addressing protocol.  We are about to see young 
adults that have never lived in a world without IPv6.  It may not have been 
universally available when they were born but it was available.  There are 
definitely school leavers that have never lived in a world where IPv6 did not 
exist.  My daughter will be one of them next year when she finishes year 12.  
IPv6 is 7 months older than she is.

Some of us have been running IPv6 in production for over a decade now and 
developing products that support IPv6 even longer.

We have had 17 years to build up a universal IPv6 network.  It should have been 
done by now.

Mark

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