Colton,

You're only going to find very small, old, or not certified (usually still
very small) CMTSs that only do layer 2.  All of the major vendors are doing
layer 3 because we've found out over time that not doing it is more
problematic.  Having said that, if you're looking for a more ONT/DSLAM type
of install there is a new type of CMTSs that look at lot like traditional
telco DLC/BLC deployments.

https://intx15.ncta.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/17-Remote-PHY.pdf

The remote PHY+MAC boxes are basically mini-CMTSs and they typically rely
on something upstream handling layer 3.  The remote PHY boxes are different
as they don't even do a complete layer 2 and instead forward DOCSIS frames
back to a centralized CMTS/CCAP.



Scott Helms
Chief Technology Officer
ZCorum
(678) 507-5000
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On Tue, Feb 2, 2016 at 10:43 AM, Colton Conor <colton.co...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Graham,
>
> What is DSG? Yes, I am really looking for a CMTS to perform layer 2 just as
> our DSLAMs and GPON do today. All layer 3 will be upstream. I would want to
> handle DHCP upstream, but have the CMTS insert Option 82 if that is a
> feature. Not sure what specific CMTS stuff you need.
>
> On Tue, Feb 2, 2016 at 8:12 AM, Graham Johnston <johnst...@westmancom.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Colton,
> >
> > It really depends on what features you are after.  I've demo'd one of the
> > small 1/2RU C-DOCSIS CMTSs, and they certainly work.  For us though it
> was
> > a non-starter as we needed support for DSG and it didn't have it.  If all
> > you are after is basic internet connectivity there is Pico Digital,
> Vecima,
> > Sumavision, as well as others.  Many of the C-DOCSIS CMTSs seem either
> only
> > support, or are more often meant to support layer 2 operations where the
> > routing happens upstream from the CMTS.
> >
> > Graham Johnston
> > Network Planner
> > Westman Communications Group
> > 204.717.2829
> > johnst...@westmancom.com
> > think green; don't print this email.
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-boun...@nanog.org] On Behalf Of Colton Conor
> > Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2016 8:00 AM
> > To: Daniel Corbe
> > Cc: NANOG
> > Subject: Re: Cable Operator List
> >
> > Well, maybe NANOG's not a bad place for this post then! I would like to
> > know more about the data-only side of CMTS systems, and who the main
> > vendors are.
> >
> > We have MDU properties where there is either old inside CAT3 phone wire,
> or
> > coaxial cable. We have looked and are very familiar with the multiple
> > technologies that work over phone lines namely VDSL2 and G.FAST. However,
> > using the coaxial cable seems to be a much better solution than using the
> > phone wires.
> >
> > So I am looking for compacts, low cost CMTS systems. Based on the specs,
> I
> > am looking for something at least DOCSIS 3.0 capable, with at least 16X4
> > output. Something with the ability to upgrade to software upgrade to
> DOCSIS
> > 3.1 would be nice, but I doubt that would be a low cost solution.
> >
> > Whats out there for small operators that don't want a large chassis based
> > system to feed an entire town with.
> >
> > So far I have found the
> > http://picodigital.com/product-details.php?ID=miniCMTS200a which seems
> to
> > retail for under $5000.
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Feb 2, 2016 at 7:48 AM, Daniel Corbe <dco...@hammerfiber.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > > On Feb 2, 2016, at 8:42 AM, Colton Conor <colton.co...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Are there any mailing lists out there dedicated for cable/MSO type
> > > > operators?
> > > >
> > >
> > > I'm curious about this too.
> > >
> > > I’m not a cable operator (in that I haven’t successfully registered
> for a
> > > cable franchise yet) but I do operate a docsis network and I’ve
> > > successfully negotiated the treacherous waters of obtaining and
> providing
> > > content to my users.
> > >
> > > I’m still a bit green behind the ears but I could probably offer some
> > > measure of assistance if you have a specific question.
> > >
> > > -Daniel
> > >
> > >
> >
>

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