Yeah today I cancelled Netflix for exactly this reason. On Fri, Jun 3, 2016 at 8:35 PM Owen DeLong <o...@delong.com> wrote:
> I think the day that Netflix tells me to turn off IPv6 or doesn’t serve me > content > because one of my routes to the internet for IPv6 is via an HE tunnel (the > other > two are different tunnels, but all of my IPv4 also goes through tunnels) > will be the > day I tell Netflix that I will turn them off instead. > > Let’s face it folks, if we want to encourage Netflix to tell the content > providers > to give up the silly geo-shit, then we have to stop patronizing channels > that do > silly geo-shit. > > The only real impact is to vote with your $$$ and tell the companies you > are > unsubscribing from exactly why you are unsubscribing. > > So far, I haven’t run into an issue where I couldn’t get what I wanted to > watch > via a tunnel I was able to set up. When/If Netflix gets good enough to > detect > and block my tunnel, I’ll stop using Netflix and stop paying them. I’ll > also > make sure that they know why. > > I’m sure if they lose enough customers for this reason, they’ll choose to > do something > about it with their content providers. After all, the fewer subscribers > Netflix has, > the less they pay the content providers, too. > > Sure, nobody cares about my $10/month or whatever it’s up to these days, > but if a > few thousand of us start walking off and it starts to look like a trend, > it can > change things. > > Owen > > > On Jun 3, 2016, at 17:17 , Cryptographrix <cryptograph...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > > Very true. Telling people to turn off IPv6 support through their customer > > service portal is completely infuriating for those that can't get IPv6 > > through their ISP and need it. > > > > > > On Fri, Jun 3, 2016 at 8:13 PM Spencer Ryan <sr...@arbor.net> wrote: > > > >> Yes but HE doesn't serve residential users directly. To a normal person > HE > >> is no different than NTT/GTT/Verizon/Sprint/Any other transit carrier. > They > >> may move the most v6 traffic, but Comcast is the largest ISP actually > >> getting v6 to end users. > >> > >> > >> *Spencer Ryan* | Senior Systems Administrator | sr...@arbor.net > >> *Arbor Networks* > >> +1.734.794.5033 (d) | +1.734.846.2053 (m) > >> www.arbornetworks.com > >> > >> On Fri, Jun 3, 2016 at 8:07 PM, Cryptographrix < > cryptograph...@gmail.com> > >> wrote: > >> > >>> I don't remember the source, but I do remember that even with Comcast's > >>> deployment, HE still represented the majority of IPv6 traffic in the > US. > >>> > >>> Of course, it could just be a bunch of us heavy IPv6 users. > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> On Fri, Jun 3, 2016 at 8:03 PM Spencer Ryan <sr...@arbor.net> wrote: > >>> > >>>> Comcast is near 100% on their DOCSIS network (Busniess and > residential). > >>>> That should be the largest single ISP for IPv6 for end users in the > USA. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> *Spencer Ryan* | Senior Systems Administrator | sr...@arbor.net > >>>> *Arbor Networks* > >>>> +1.734.794.5033 (d) | +1.734.846.2053 (m) > >>>> www.arbornetworks.com > >>>> > >>>> On Fri, Jun 3, 2016 at 7:49 PM, Cryptographrix < > cryptograph...@gmail.com > >>>>> wrote: > >>>> > >>>>> Depends - how many US users have native IPv6 through their ISPs? > >>>>> > >>>>> If I remember correctly (I can't find the source at the moment), > HE.net > >>>>> represents something like 70% of IPv6 traffic in the US. > >>>>> > >>>>> And yeah, not doing that - actually in the middle of an IPv6 project > at > >>>>> work at the moment that's a bit important to me. > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> On Fri, Jun 3, 2016 at 7:45 PM Baldur Norddahl < > >>>>> baldur.nordd...@gmail.com> > >>>>> wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>>> Den 4. jun. 2016 01.26 skrev "Cryptographrix" < > >>>>> cryptograph...@gmail.com>: > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> The information I'm getting from Netflix support now is explicitly > >>>>>> telling > >>>>>>> me to turn off IPv6 - someone might want to stop them before they > >>>>>>> completely kill US IPv6 adoption. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Not allowing he.net tunnels is not killing ipv6. You just need need > >>>>> native > >>>>>> ipv6. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> On the other hand it would be nice if Netflix would try the other > >>>>> protocol > >>>>>> before blocking. > >>>>>> > >>>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >> > >