As an addendum to this and what someone said earlier about the tunnels not being anonymous: From Netflix's perspective they are. Yes HE knows who controls which tunnel, but if Netflix went to HE and said "Tell me what user has xxxxx/48" HE would say "No". Thus, making them an effective anonymous VPN service from Netflix's perspective.
*Spencer Ryan* | Senior Systems Administrator | sr...@arbor.net *Arbor Networks* +1.734.794.5033 (d) | +1.734.846.2053 (m) www.arbornetworks.com On Mon, Jun 6, 2016 at 10:59 AM, Matthew Huff <mh...@ox.com> wrote: > Netflix IS acting in their user's best interest. In order to provide > content that the user's want, the content providers have mandated that they > do their due diligence to block out of region users including VPN and open > tunnel access. As Hulu and Amazon prime become more popular and their > contracts with the content provides come due, they will have to also. > > You can argue about the content provides business model all you want, but > Netflix has to do what they are doing. They aren't blocking IPv6 users, > they are blocking users that are using VPNs and/or tunnels since their > currently is no practical way of providing GEOIP information about that > users that the content providers require. > > > ---- > Matthew Huff | 1 Manhattanville Rd > Director of Operations | Purchase, NY 10577 > OTA Management LLC | Phone: 914-460-4039 > aim: matthewbhuff | Fax: 914-694-5669 > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-boun...@nanog.org] On Behalf Of Scott Morizot > > Sent: Monday, June 6, 2016 10:50 AM > > To: Mark Tinka <mark.ti...@seacom.mu> > > Cc: NANOG list <nanog@nanog.org> > > Subject: Re: Netflix VPN detection - actual engineer needed > > > > I have Hulu Plus and Amazon Prime. The only thing I would miss from > > Netflix > > is their Marvel original series. And I can live with that. I can't live > > without my IPv6 enabled home network and Internet connection since > > that's > > an essential part of my job. (I'm the IPv6 transition technical lead > > for a > > large organization.) While I actually manage my home internet gateway > > through a linux server and have fine-grained control over the firewall > > rules, I'm still debating whether I care enough about a handful of > > series > > to continue paying a company that is deliberately acting against its > > users' > > interests. Right now I'm leaning toward no. But I'll discuss it with my > > wife before making a final decision. > > > > Scott > > > > On Mon, Jun 6, 2016 at 8:03 AM, Mark Tinka <mark.ti...@seacom.mu> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > On 6/Jun/16 01:45, Damian Menscher wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Who are these non-technical Netflix users who accidentally stumbled > > into > > > > having a HE tunnel broker connection without their knowledge? I > > wasn't > > > > aware this sort of thing could happen without user consent, and > > would > > > like > > > > to know if I'm wrong. Only thing I can imagine is if ISPs are > > using HE > > > as > > > > a form of CGN. > > > > > > There are several networks around the world that rely on 6-in-4 > > because > > > their local provider does not offer IPv6. > > > > > > Mark. > > > >