See, that's the thing... The key to victory here is to defeat the robots. Take away the anonymity of proxies and trojan amplifiers and enforcement gets a lot easier. Sadly, this war doesn't seem likely to be won anytime soon. Especially since there are State entities using (and even deploying) a number of these systems for use against other States and businesses and/or financial mechanisms. So rather than help the community solve the problem (for their own good, no less!), it is in their interests to perpetuate it.
-Wayne On Fri, Oct 21, 2016 at 05:37:08PM -0400, Alain Hebert wrote: > Just a FYI, > > That "horrific trend" has been happening since some techie got > dissed on an IRC channel over 20 years ago. > > He used a bunch of hosted putters to ICMP flood the IRC server. > > Whatever the community is behind, until the carriers decide to wise > up this will keep happening, that is without talking about the > industries being developed around DDoSes events. > > Enjoy your weekend. ( I ain't on call anymore anyway =D ) > > ----- > Alain Hebert aheb...@pubnix.net > PubNIX Inc. > 50 boul. St-Charles > P.O. Box 26770 Beaconsfield, Quebec H9W 6G7 > Tel: 514-990-5911 http://www.pubnix.net Fax: 514-990-9443 > > On 10/21/16 11:52, Brian Davies via NANOG wrote: > > +1! > > > > Well said, Patrick. > > > > B > > > > On Friday, October 21, 2016, Patrick W. Gilmore <patr...@ianai.net> wrote: > > > >> I cannot give additional info other than what???s been on ???public > >> media???. > >> > >> However, I would very much like to say that this is a horrific trend on > >> the Internet. The idea that someone can mention a DDoS then get DDoS???ed > >> Can > >> Not Stand. See Krebs??? on the Democratization of Censorship. See lots of > >> other things. > >> > >> To Dyn and everyone else being attacked: > >> The community is behind you. There are problems, but if we stick together, > >> we can beat these miscreants. > >> > >> To the miscreants: > >> You will not succeed. Search "churchill on the beaches???. It???s a bit > >> melodramatic, but it???s how I feel at this moment. > >> > >> To the rest of the community: > >> If you can help, please do. I know a lot of you are thinking ???what can I > >> do?" There is a lot you can do. BCP38 & BCP84 instantly come to mind. Sure, > >> that doesn???t help Mirai, but it still helps. There are many other things > >> you can do as well. > >> > >> But a lot of it is just willingness to help. When someone asks you to help > >> trace an attack, do not let the request sit for a while. Damage is being > >> done. Help your neighbor. When someone???s house is burning, your current > >> project, your lunch break, whatever else you are doing is almost certainly > >> less important. If we stick together and help each other, we can - we WILL > >> - win this war. If we are apathetic, we have already lost. > >> > >> > >> OK, enough motivational speaking for today. But take this to heart. Our > >> biggest problem is people thinking they cannot or do not want to help. > >> > >> -- > >> TTFN, > >> patrick > >> > >>> On Oct 21, 2016, at 10:55 AM, Chris Grundemann <cgrundem...@gmail.com > >> <javascript:;>> wrote: > >>> Does anyone have any additional details? Seems to be over now, but I'm > >> very > >>> curious about the specifics of such a highly impactful attack (and it's > >>> timing following NANOG 68)... > >>> > >>> https://krebsonsecurity.com/2016/10/ddos-on-dyn-impacts- > >> twitter-spotify-reddit/ > >>> -- > >>> @ChrisGrundemann > >>> http://chrisgrundemann.com > >> --- Wayne Bouchard w...@typo.org Network Dude http://www.typo.org/~web/