> read the IDR thread(1), the vendors in question actually self reported.
> I don't think 'shame' here is quite appropriate, but certainly owen's note
> about: "Hey, pls don't do this again" with the added: ""this is not a good
> path to continue" were noted by several folks on the IDR list.

luckily we have never seen something like this before. </sarcasm>

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