Whether it's politics, non-politics, related, offtopic, whatever. It has been discussed in here for lengths and overlengths. This one is no different. And hey, rules exist to be bend >:-)
Second, the content of the topic will affect ALL of us, whether you are an ISP, simple admin/tech or anyone else watching and participating on this list as it discusses changes that are to be expected getting a new president with his new associates who probably only looks at the cashflow without having any clue about the technical difficulties and problems they will cause. In all the time I am monitoring nanog know, there is one thing I learned: If you don't like it, simply move it to /dev/null and ignore the contents. On Sun, November 13, 2016 11:01 pm, Mel Beckman wrote: > Rod, > > I respectfully disagree. This is discussing politics, not the "operational > and technical issues" of NANOG's charter. > > There are other venues for politics. NANOG's AUP prohibits political > discussions. > > -mel > > On Nov 13, 2016, at 1:42 PM, Rod Beck > <rod.b...@unitedcablecompany.com<mailto:rod.b...@unitedcablecompany.com>> > wrote: > > > Public policy affecting networks is a legitimate topic. Net neutrality has > been discussed countless times on this board with no objection from > anybody. > > > Regards, > > > Roderick. > > > ________________________________ > From: NANOG <nanog-boun...@nanog.org<mailto:nanog-boun...@nanog.org>> on > behalf of Mel Beckman <m...@beckman.org<mailto:m...@beckman.org>> > Sent: Sunday, November 13, 2016 10:37 PM > To: sur...@mauigateway.com<mailto:sur...@mauigateway.com> > Cc: nanog@nanog.org<mailto:nanog@nanog.org> > Subject: Re: Eisenach & the FCC - was: [Re: Here we go again.] > > Before this snowball gets any bigger, I would like to reiterate the > previous commenter calling for this present political discussion to move > elsewhere. Here's the NANOG AUP we've all agreed to: > > > > NANOG Acceptable Use Policy > > * Discussion will focus on Internet operational and technical issues as > described in the charter of NANOG<https://www.nanog.org/history/charter>. > Current Charter | North American Network Operators > Group<https://www.nanog.org/history/charter> > www.nanog.org<http://www.nanog.org> > As amended October 6, 2010. 1. Preamble. The North American Network > Operators' Group (NANOG) exists to promote dialog between people > concerning the creation ... > > > > * Postings of issues inconsistent with the charter are prohibited. > > * Postings of political, philosophical, and legal nature are prohibited. > > > > You don't have to go home, but you can't stay here. > > -mel > > On Nov 13, 2016, at 12:49 PM, Scott Weeks > <sur...@mauigateway.com<mailto:sur...@mauigateway.com><mailto:sur...@mauigateway.com>> > wrote: > > > > --- > jfmezei_na...@vaxination.ca<mailto:jfmezei_na...@vaxination.ca><mailto:jfmezei_na...@vaxination.ca> > wrote: > > The president elect chose Mr Eisenach to help fill jobs in FCC > and other telecom areas of govt. > ---------------------------------------------------- > > > > That'll have impact on ops, if some of the papers are correct. > Briefly: > > > https://www.engadget.com/2016/11/09/under-trump-the-future-of-net-neutrality-and-broadband-is-uncert > [https://s.aolcdn.com/dims5/amp:a6317e0b93421c087f056ab209b700d98a021849/t:1200,630/q:80/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fs.aolcdn.com%2Fdims-shared%2Fdims3%2FGLOB%2Fcrop%2F4666x2539%2B0%2B0%2Fresize%2F1600x871%21%2Fformat%2Fjpg%2Fquality%2F85%2Fhttps%3A%2F%2Fs.aolcdn.com%2Fhss%2Fstorage%2Fmidas%2F914aeeebf580a22eca2109764d528600%2F204549332%2F2d3a00d2e6d34d28a309ce5a6622451b.jpeg]<https://www.engadget.com/2016/11/09/under-trump-the-future-of-net-neutrality-and-broadband-is-uncert> > > Under Trump the future of Net Neutrality and broadband is > uncertain<https://www.engadget.com/2016/11/09/under-trump-the-future-of-net-neutrality-and-broadband-is-uncert> > www.engadget.com<http://www.engadget.com> > On January 20th, Donald Trump will be sworn in as president of the United > States. With a Republican-controlled House and Senate behind him, things > in this count... > > > > "Eisenach has made a career out of crusading against industry > regulation" > > "...authored several papers and op-ed pieces that were funded by > Net Neutrality opponents ..." > > > > http://www.businessinsider.com/donald-trump-fcc-net-neutrality-zero-rating-policy-future-2016-11 > > "The Economics of Zero Rating." In it, Eisenach defends the concept, > writing that "broad-based bans or restrictions on zero-rating plans > are likely to be counterproductive and harm consumer welfare." > > > > Interesting times ahead... > > > scott >
