If the loss is seen towards a terminating webserver maybe spool curl response times over the course of a day and correlated that to observed loss via a smokeping service.
Support may be more responsive with some hard statistics. Regards, Andrew Paolucci Sent with [ProtonMail](https://protonmail.com) Secure Email. -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Re: Cogent NOC Local Time: December 14, 2016 2:53 PM UTC Time: December 14, 2016 7:53 PM From: lis...@kurtkraut.net To: a...@djlab.com Nanog <nanog@nanog.org> Hello, mtr packet loss column has no scientific precision and should not be considered. It is not mtr fault but forwarding routers have a low priority to respond to ICMP requests. The only way you can prove there is a problem is a end to end ping, the regular ping command, not mtr. Best regards, Kurt Kraut 2016-12-14 17:16 GMT-02:00 Randy <a...@djlab.com>: > Hi all, > > Anyone beyond front line support at cogento on list? > > Nanog is the last place I'd look for assistance but it seems support over > at cogentco is not nearly what it used to be. > > Example MTR to cogen't own website (support doesn't utilize or understand > MTR at all apparently): > > Host Loss% Snt Last Avg Best Wrst > StDev > 1. x.x.x.x 0.0% 196 0.5 11.7 0.3 > 186.8 35.2 > 2. x.x.x.x 0.0% 196 0.6 10.2 0.4 > 226.3 36.2 > 3. 38.88.249.209 0.0% 196 0.9 1.1 0.7 > 17.7 1.2 > 4. te0-0-2-3.nr13.b023801-0.iad01.atl 0.0% 196 1.0 1.0 0.8 > 2.0 0.1 > 5. te0-0-0-1.rcr22.iad01.atlas.cogent 2.0% 196 2.1 1.9 1.0 > 3.3 0.4 > 6. be2961.ccr41.iad02.atlas.cogentco. 2.6% 196 1.8 2.1 1.1 > 3.8 0.5 > 7. be2954.rcr21.iad03.atlas.cogentco. 2.6% 196 2.0 2.3 1.2 > 9.4 0.7 > 8. be2952.agr11.iad03.atlas.cogentco. 0.5% 196 2.7 2.6 1.5 > 6.8 0.6 > 9. cogentco.com 4.1% 196 2.1 2.0 1.0 > 16.8 1.1 > > Pretty much the same to anywhere. Packet loss begins at rcr22.iad01 and > propagates all the way down the line. Worse during peak hours, gone late > at night. > > After three days of no email response for my ticket, I called and after an > hour of my life I want back, front line support cannot reproduce the loss. > Final conclusion: "Your host is dropping packets". > > -- > ~Randy >