Davide, My example is simply a reductio ad absurdum, to demonstrate the error of the idea that ISPs should be allowed to resell data "because money". :)
-mel > On Mar 29, 2017, at 12:08 AM, Davide Davini <diotona...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Even though your example is a bit melodramatic I agree with the concept, > all the arguments against the ownership that users have on their own > data is just hogwash. > > If there needs to be government imposed regulations to ensure it, I have > zero problems with it. > >> On 29/03/2017 03:19, Mel Beckman wrote: >> What about bank robbery? Little ISPs could supplement their incomes using >> that immoral revenue stream too. The ends don't justify the means. Browsing >> history belongs to the user, not the ISP. Robbing users of this data is not >> justified just because it would give ISPs -- of any size -- a new revenue >> stream. >> >> -mel beckman >> >>> On Mar 28, 2017, at 6:14 PM, Mike Hammett <na...@ics-il.net> wrote: >>> >>> What about little ISPs? There are already monetization platforms out there >>> that can be resold to small ISPs. The company sells the aggregate data >>> upstream. Not that I would, but in a small ISP, that money makes a big >>> difference. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ----- >>> Mike Hammett >>> Intelligent Computing Solutions >>> >>> Midwest Internet Exchange >>> >>> The Brothers WISP >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> >>> From: "Mel Beckman" <m...@beckman.org> >>> To: "Hugo Slabbert" <h...@slabnet.com> >>> Cc: nanog@nanog.org >>> Sent: Tuesday, March 28, 2017 8:08:19 PM >>> Subject: Re: EFF Call for sign-ons: ISPs, networking companies and >>> engineers opposed to FCC privacy repeal >>> >>> Hugo, >>> >>> That's a great find! I note in the article: >>> >>> "Not only is the price of the premier service (with ads) only $70 a month, >>> but it comes with a waiver of equipment, installation, and activation fees. >>> The standard service without ads is $99 a month..." >>> >>> So that's $29 a month to let AT&T track your Web browsing, but only for >>> targeting ads. ATT promises "And we won’t sell your personal information to >>> anyone, for any reason." >>> >>> I would guess that the ability to sell that data would be worth several >>> times the $29/month, so it's conceivable that a provider could offer $10/mo >>> Gig Internet in exchange for browsing history. >>> >>> But nobody does. >>> >>> Because they think they can steal it. >>> >>> I think this pretty well demonstrates the greed of the big-ISP executives >>> who lobbied for today's legislative atrocity, which lets them rob customers >>> of browsing history that even AT&T execs acknowledge users own. >>> >>> -mel beckman >>> >>> On Mar 28, 2017, at 5:56 PM, Hugo Slabbert >>> <h...@slabnet.com<mailto:h...@slabnet.com>> wrote: >>> >>> Now, if ISPs want to PURCHASE browser data from customers directly, I'm >>> sure they'll get some takers. But that strategy has never appeared in >>> any business plan I've seen. >>> >>> https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2013/12/att-offers-gigabit-internet-discount-in-exchange-for-your-web-history/ >>> ? >>> -- >>> Hugo Slabbert | email, xmpp/jabber: >>> h...@slabnet.com<mailto:h...@slabnet.com> >>> pgp key: B178313E | also on Signal > >
