My terminology of tiers are: Tier 1 - is in few or no major disputes, has no transit, and is able to access over three nines percent of the internet
Tier 2 - as Tier 1, but has transit. Cogent is neither on v6, and I have no clue about v4. HE is probably Tier 2 on v4, and is Tier 1 on v6. On 15/05/2017 19:27, Ca By wrote: > On Mon, May 15, 2017 at 6:44 PM Bradley Huffaker <bhuff...@caida.org> wrote: > >> On Sun, May 14, 2017 at 09:24:18AM +0200, Mark Tinka wrote: >>> Nowadays, I'm hearing this less and less, but it's not completely gone. >> Putting aside the question of their importance, there is a small number >> of ISPs that do no pay for transit. If you don't call them Tier 1, what >> do you call them? Transit Free Providers (TFPs)? > > I think the broader and more relevant question is -- Does it matter who > pays who ? Why name an irrelevant characteristic? > > Cogent may not buy transit but i would not purchase their service since > they fail to have full internet reach (google and HE) > > And xyz incumbent may have a poor network, but they may get free peering or > may get paid-peering because of their incumbent / monopoly status... that > is not a reason for me to purchase from them or think they are an elite > tier 1. > > The dynamica of the day are more around reach and quality, not some legacy > measure of how market-failure facilitate anti-social behavior > > > >> -- >> the value of a world model is not how accurately it captures reality >> but how often it leads us to take appropriate action >>
