exactly
it is becoming really painful
Ge
> Le 16 juin 2017 à 17:06, Alexander Maassen <outsi...@scarynet.org> a écrit :
>
> the discussion about the external spam kinda exceeds the volume of the spam
> itself. just my 2 cents.
> just block, delete, continue life
>
> Kind regards,
> Alexander Maassen
> - Technical Maintenance Engineer Parkstad Support BV- Maintainer DroneBL-
> Peplink Certified Engineer
>
> -------- Oorspronkelijk bericht --------Van: b...@theworld.com Datum:
> 15-06-17 20:09 (GMT+01:00) Aan: Dan Hollis <goe...@sasami.anime.net> Cc:
> Niels Bakker <niels=na...@bakker.net>, nanog@nanog.org, b...@theworld.com
> Onderwerp: Re: Vendors spamming NANOG attendees
>
> On June 14, 2017 at 14:22 goe...@sasami.anime.net (Dan Hollis) wrote:
>> On Wed, 14 Jun 2017, b...@theworld.com wrote:
>>> Merely deciding not to patronize them may not be sufficient and that's
>>> why we make that sort of thing just outright illegal rather than hope
>>> market forces will suffice.
>>
>> Most spam is sent from compromised machines anyway, so there are already
>> criminal violations involved in sending spam.
>
> FWIW I believe the context was a vendor spamming NANOG attendees (see
> the Subject:) so not likely being done from compromised machines.
>
> That said, yes, a lot of spam is sent from compromised machines as you
> say.
>
> But criminal violations can be additive, even rising to things like
> RICO charges (a pattern of organized criminal behavior etc.) which can
> be both criminal and civil and added onto charges like the criminality
> of specific mechanisms (compromised systems etc.)
>
> It really depends on how interested one can get the legal machinery in
> the problem. Thus far that's hit or miss. I can't find any instance
> where RICO charges were used against a spam gang tho, at least on a
> quick search.
>
> --
> -Barry Shein
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