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Best regards. > Le 26 juil. 2017 à 04:28, Colton Conor <colton.co...@gmail.com> a écrit : > > Besides FS.com and http://www.beetlefiberoptics.com, do you have any more > recommendations for passive muxes? I usually stick to and like FiberStore, > but I am wondering if there is anything out there better/cheaper. > > One of the things I am noticing is the CWDM and DWDM SFP+ optics are quite > expensive at $250 for CWDM and $350 for DWDM. I guess it shouldn't be > cheap to send 10G around a ring, but I am wondering what transponders cost. > > On Tue, Jun 20, 2017 at 3:55 AM, Jeroen Wunnink <jeroen.wunn...@gtt.net> > wrote: > >> Another alternative is to ask the http://www.beetlefiberoptics.com guys. >> They build muxes on spec and they can also provide a 1310nm wide-band port >> on their units which allows a 40/100G-LR4 aside from the 1550nm DWDM band. >> >> We’ve used some simple splitters (line/1310nm LR4/1550nm DWDM ports on a >> unit) and full passive DWDM muxes with a 40/100G-LR4 port on there and >> these work pretty good. >> >> >> >> >> Jeroen Wunnink >> IP Engineering manager >> office: +31.208.200.622 ext. 1011 >> Amsterdam Office >> www.gtt.net <http://www.gtt.net/> >> >> >> >> >> On 20/06/2017, 01:14, "NANOG on behalf of Colton Conor" < >> nanog-boun...@nanog.org on behalf of colton.co...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> Do you have any idea if fiberstore has one with both a monitor and 1310 >> wideband port? I would want both. >> >> Seeing as how they don't charge extra for an expansion port, but do for >> other special ports I am thinking of just using the expansion port. >> >> On Mon, Jun 19, 2017 at 4:52 PM, Faisal Imtiaz < >> fai...@snappytelecom.net> >> wrote: >> >>> >>>>> From the sounds of it, no one knows the real difference between the >>> expansion port, 1310 port, and 1550 port >>> >>> Hmm.. not sure how you are reading this... >>> I believe that there is no 'standard' and as such the actual filter >> on the >>> mux/demux you are using may vary by mfg. >>> I can confirm what is an expansion port... (pass everything thru >> that is >>> not being filtered by the mux/demux ) >>> I can also confirm that Fiberstore 1310nm port (not to be confused >> with >>> the CWDM 1310 port) will pass all 4 wavelengths for 40g/100g optics. >>> I don't have experience with the 1550nm port. >>> >>>>> For real world applications, I would assume the monitor port would >> be to >>> plug in a handheld meter, and see which channels are coming through >> that >>> node without breaking the ring. >>> >>> Correct that is what it is designed for..... it allows a fraction of >>> light (I am guessing would also cause an increase in insertion loss >>> figure). >>> >>>>> Not sure if their would be a monitor port for both directions is >> you >>> were using a OADM? >>> If you look at the OADM's e.g. like a Cisco CWDM OADM with monitor >> ports, >>> you will see that they are on both sides east & west. >>> >>> >>> Regards. >>> >>> >>> Faisal Imtiaz >>> Snappy Internet & Telecom >>> 7266 SW 48 Street >>> Miami, FL 33155 >>> Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 <(305)%20663-5518> >>> >>> Help-desk: (305)663-5518 <(305)%20663-5518> Option 2 or Email: >>> supp...@snappytelecom.net >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> *From: *"Colton Conor" <colton.co...@gmail.com> >>> *To: *"Faisal Imtiaz" <fai...@snappytelecom.net> >>> *Cc: *"Mike Hammett" <na...@ics-il.net>, "Luke Guillory" < >>> lguill...@reservetele.com>, "nanog list" <nanog@nanog.org> >>> *Sent: *Monday, June 19, 2017 4:14:19 PM >>> >>> *Subject: *Re: DWDM Mux/Demux using 40G Optics >>> >>> Thanks for the answers. From the sounds of it, no one knows the real >>> difference between the expansion port, 1310 port, and 1550 port. For >> real >>> world applications, I would assume the monitor port would be to plug >> in a >>> handheld meter, and see which channels are coming through that node >> without >>> breaking the ring. Not sure if their would be a monitor port for both >>> directions is you were using a OADM? >>> >>> On Mon, Jun 19, 2017 at 2:38 PM, Faisal Imtiaz < >> fai...@snappytelecom.net> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Answers in-line ... >>>> >>>> Faisal Imtiaz >>>> Snappy Internet & Telecom >>>> 7266 SW 48 Street >>>> Miami, FL 33155 >>>> Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 <(305)%20663-5518> >>>> >>>> Help-desk: (305)663-5518 <(305)%20663-5518> Option 2 or Email: >>>> supp...@snappytelecom.net >>>> ------------------------------ >>>> >>>> *From: *"Colton Conor" <colton.co...@gmail.com> >>>> *To: *"Mike Hammett" <na...@ics-il.net> >>>> *Cc: *"Luke Guillory" <lguill...@reservetele.com>, "nanog list" < >>>> nanog@nanog.org>, "Faisal Imtiaz" <fai...@snappytelecom.net> >>>> *Sent: *Monday, June 19, 2017 3:30:37 PM >>>> *Subject: *Re: DWDM Mux/Demux using 40G Optics >>>> >>>> I guess that is the real question. Besides the client ports that are >>>> clearly identified by channel number on Muxes, what channels can the >>>> special ports handle? >>>> http://www.fs.com/products/43723.html It has 4 special service port >>>> options: >>>> >>>> 1. Expansion Port (Based on what I am seeing, I think this would be >> to >>>> stack another mux if you needed more channels. So I assume it >> allows all >>>> channels to be added besides the client channels?) >>>> >>>> >>>> Exactly... this is basically a pass thru port, i.e. what is not >> getting >>>> mux/demux should get passed thru (keep the insertion loss in mind). >>>> >>>> 2. Monitor Port (I think this is just a tap that you would hook a >> monitor >>>> up to, and be able to see all channels coming through with a meter. >> I >>>> assume not a good idea to add/drop channels through this port)? >>>> >>>> I don't use this port, but supposedly it will pass a fraction 5% >> of the >>>> light from the main port so that it can be monitored. May be >> someone else >>>> can offer some practical use for this port. >>>> >>>> 3. 1310nm Port (Labeled as 1310, but clearly allows more than just >> 1310 >>>> since tutorial is saying it supports QSFP+ which is 1270 - 1330 nm, >> so what >>>> range does it really support or is there no a range?) >>>> >>>> Not sure about the range question, but this is the port for having >> the >>>> 40g/100g QSFP+ pass thru >>>> >>>> 4. 1550nm Port (Labeled as 1550nm, but I wonder if its like the >> 1330nm?) >>>> >>>> I have not had the need to explore this in detail, but from my >> initial >>>> understanding, this can be used for ZR (long range optics) and or >> to stack >>>> a DWDM Mux >>>> >>>> Would you recommend a monitor port on every mux you buy? >>>> >>>> As I shared above, I don't. >>>> >>>> >>>> On Mon, Jun 19, 2017 at 2:18 PM, Mike Hammett <na...@ics-il.net> >> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Verify pass-through frequencies for the 1310 (or equivalent) for >> the >>>>> passive mux in question. This would only work for a single channel. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ----- >>>>> Mike Hammett >>>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions >>>>> http://www.ics-il.com >>>>> >>>>> Midwest-IX >>>>> http://www.midwest-ix.com >>>>> >>>>> ------------------------------ >>>>> *From: *"Luke Guillory" <lguill...@reservetele.com> >>>>> *To: *"Faisal Imtiaz" <fai...@snappytelecom.net>, "Colton Conor" < >>>>> colton.co...@gmail.com> >>>>> *Cc: *"nanog list" <nanog@nanog.org> >>>>> *Sent: *Monday, June 19, 2017 2:13:10 PM >>>>> *Subject: *RE: DWDM Mux/Demux using 40G Optics >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Faisal, >>>>> >>>>> How would he inject his current 4x10 40g into the mux which is >> currently >>>>> on a single LC cable? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Luke Guillory >>>>> Network Operations Manager >>>>> >>>>> Tel: 985.536.1212 <(985)%20536-1212> >>>>> Fax: 985.536.0300 <(985)%20536-0300> >>>>> Email: lguill...@reservetele.com >>>>> >>>>> Reserve Telecommunications >>>>> 100 RTC Dr >>>>> Reserve, LA 70084 >>>>> >>>>> ____________________________________________________________ >>>>> _____________________________________ >>>>> >>>>> Disclaimer: >>>>> The information transmitted, including attachments, is intended >> only for >>>>> the person(s) or entity to which it is addressed and may contain >>>>> confidential and/or privileged material which should not >> disseminate, >>>>> distribute or be copied. 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Luke Guillory >> therefore does >>>>> not accept liability for any errors or omissions in the contents >> of this >>>>> message, which arise as a result of e-mail transmission. . >>>>> >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-boun...@nanog.org] On Behalf Of Faisal >> Imtiaz >>>>> Sent: Monday, June 19, 2017 2:02 PM >>>>> To: Colton Conor >>>>> Cc: nanog list >>>>> Subject: Re: DWDM Mux/Demux using 40G Optics >>>>> >>>>> Answers in-line below. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> If you look at the CWDM Muxes (8 or 9 channel) you will notice a >> common >>>>> configuration of >>>>> >>>>> Upgrade Port (expansion port) + 1450 or 1470 to 1610nm >>>>> >>>>> in the DWDM muxes you will see them listed as # of Port + >> 1310 pass >>>>> thru channel. >>>>> >>>>> These are exactly what you are looking for ..... :) >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> >> >> >>