Bit of background, I used to work for a mid-market commercial TV station in 
Illinois, both in IT/Broadcast Engineering and eventually in production.

I'm not to the point in my career where I can speak intelligently about content 
delivery, but from a technology perspective this does sound like a solved 
problem. That said, I don't think this is a technology problem.

The biggest issue we ran into at my former employer with new tech and new ideas 
was both with budget and the corporate bureaucracy. Without significant buy-in 
-- both corporate politics-wise and financially --  from the station parent 
company, something like this would be cost-prohibitive for a non-large station 
to undertake by themselves, if they were even allowed to. Generally speaking, 
where station IT was concerned we were left to fend for ourselves, from aging, 
non-virtualized Server 2003 domain controllers in 2012. This wasn't much better 
on the broadcast engineering side, as I remember our broadcast engineers 
running a new digital subchannel for a while off of an aging A/V router from 
the 90's/early aughts.

I don't recall offhand exact numbers on circuit speeds or anything, but the 
best label I can use to describe both our WAN connectivity to our parent org 
and standard internet circuits would be "woefully insufficient." Definitely 
easier to overcome these days, as plenty of broadcast providers in the 
cable/satellite TV arena co-located with us a tad, which might offer an option 
to piggy back off of any connectivity they might have, but I'd argue a station 
out in the boonies might run into issues with sufficient upload speeds to serve 
content with. Cost of content storage is likely much less of a concern, 
depending on how much content you actually store and for how long, but it's 
also something worth considering.

I suppose the biggest takeaway is that, like I mentioned, in the States you 
aren't just dealing with the big networks. You're also dealing with the 
corporate hegemony of the various station owners. While networks can force a 
lot of standards, policies, and procedures on the broadcast groups/stations out 
there as part of the contract that allows them to carry network content, the 
cost of implementing something will generally fall on the owners and the 
stations.

That's not even mentioning regulatory requirements like EAS and other public 
obligations that come with running an OTA TV transmitter state-side.

Casey Schoonover
Network Engineer II
Duluth Trading Company
170 Countryside Dr
Belleville, WI 53508
cschoono...@duluthtrading.com

-----Original Message-----
From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-boun...@nanog.org] On Behalf Of Jean-Francois Mezei
Sent: Friday, November 17, 2017 1:46 PM
To: Nanog@nanog.org
Subject: Broadcast television in an IP world


Once ISPs became able to provide sufficient speeds to end users, video over the 
internet became a thing.

This week, the FCC approved the ATSC3 standard.

What if instead of moving to ATSC3, TV stations that broadcast OTA became OTT 
instead?  Could the Internet handle the load?

Since TV stations that are OTA are "local", wouldn't this create an instant CDN 
service for networks such as CBS/ABC/NBS/FOX/PBS since these networks have 
local presence and can feed ISPs locally?

And while a small ISP serving Plattsburg NY would have no problem peering with 
the WPTZ server in Plattsburg, would the big guys like Comcast/Verizon be 
amenable to peering with TV stations in small markets?

Some of them would also be selling transit to the TV station (for instance, to 
serve its Canadian audience, WPTZ would need transit to go outside of 
Comcast/Frontier and reach canadian IP networks).

But a local TV station whose footprint is served by the local ISPs may not need 
any transit.

The PAY TV servives, if HBO is any indication will also move OTT, but be served 
in the more traditional way, with a central feed of content going to a CDN 
which has presence that is local to large ISPs (or inside ISPs).


We the traditional BDU (canada) MVPD (USA) is abandonned by the public and TV 
stations , PAY TV services and SVOD services such as Netflix are all on the 
Internet, would this represent a huge change in load, or just incremental 
growth, especially if local TV stations are served locally?


Just curious to see if the current OTA and Cable distribution models will/could 
morph into IP based services, eliminating the "cable TV" service.

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