But what other people have rightfully pointed out is that his behavior
is stupid and against the RFC that covers DNSBLs.  And it's not simply
MX admins here.  You have firewalls that are also affected.

If you're going to run a DNSBL to advertise your mail software,
perhaps do so in a way that doesn't flip the bird at everyone using
it.

On Tue, Jan 2, 2018 at 2:02 PM, Alexander Maassen <outsi...@scarynet.org> wrote:
> As the message said, they use this to force mx admins to remove their entry 
> to stop hammering. I remember other lists did the same. Contact the remote mx 
> admin in order to get this fixed.
>
>> Op 2 jan. 2018 om 17:57 heeft Dann Schuler <dannschu...@hotmail.com> het 
>> volgende geschreven:
>>
>> We had a Charter IP address we don’t actually send email from (it is a 
>> backup line that would only send mail if our primary line was down) 
>> Blacklisted by these guys at 10:50am EST on 1/1/18, then removed at 3:34pm 
>> EST on 1/1/18.
>>
>> MXToolBox alerted us to it, I ran a manual check on their portal, which is 
>> supposed to be http://iprange.net/rbl/lookup/  but redirects to 
>> https://realtimeblacklist.com/lookup/ and it came back not listed.  Since it 
>> was a line I knew we were not mailing from anyways I figured I would just 
>> deal with it in the morning, but it had cleared itself up by then.
>>
>> First time I had ever even heard of this one.
>>
>> Good luck!
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-bounces+dannschuler=hotmail....@nanog.org] On 
>> Behalf Of Mel Beckman
>> Sent: Tuesday, January 2, 2018 11:46 AM
>> To: nanog@nanog.org
>> Subject: Anyone else blacklisted this morning by rbl.iprange.net?
>>
>> I woke up this morning to a barrage of complaints from users that our mail 
>> servers' outbound emails are bouncing due to a blacklisting. Sure enough, 
>> mxtoolbox.com<https://nam03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fmxtoolbox.com&data=02%7C01%7C%7Cc63480c7f9a94b13c1bd08d552007f81%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636505084442000619&sdata=Bdwc8tlrQa0NnUQfeTlsM%2BNSzL5fqQi8yDUBoP2tSw8%3D&reserved=0>
>>  reports that 
>> rbl.iprange.net<https://nam03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Frbl.iprange.net&data=02%7C01%7C%7Cc63480c7f9a94b13c1bd08d552007f81%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636505084442000619&sdata=1o3%2FMYkyOIXRdJg3m5SE2weuwbyvI%2FDXaF1ux6wenxU%3D&reserved=0>
>>  has blacklisted us for more than a day. However, looking up our address on 
>> the 
>> rbl.iprange.net<https://nam03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Frbl.iprange.net&data=02%7C01%7C%7Cc63480c7f9a94b13c1bd08d552007f81%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636505084442000619&sdata=1o3%2FMYkyOIXRdJg3m5SE2weuwbyvI%2FDXaF1ux6wenxU%3D&reserved=0>
>>  lookup webpage shows we're NOT listed. But a check of the RBL's DNS shows 
>> that we are. Then I found this on the 
>> rbl.iprange.net<https://nam03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Frbl.iprange.net&data=02%7C01%7C%7Cc63480c7f9a94b13c1bd08d552007f81%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636505084442000619&sdata=1o3%2FMYkyOIXRdJg3m5SE2weuwbyvI%2FDXaF1ux6wenxU%3D&reserved=0>
>>  owner's website ():
>>
>> "rbl.iprange.net<https://nam03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Frbl.iprange.net&data=02%7C01%7C%7Cc63480c7f9a94b13c1bd08d552007f81%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636505084442000619&sdata=1o3%2FMYkyOIXRdJg3m5SE2weuwbyvI%2FDXaF1ux6wenxU%3D&reserved=0>
>>  (is offline since 01-01-2018) please replace it with 
>> rbl.realtimeblacklist.com<https://nam03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Frbl.realtimeblacklist.com&data=02%7C01%7C%7Cc63480c7f9a94b13c1bd08d552007f81%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636505084442000619&sdata=ClOK3bagRxJ2%2BS%2BJMfr2PuNNdzJcfC6cHDRdrOhqohM%3D&reserved=0>
>> rbl.iprange.net<https://nam03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Frbl.iprange.net&data=02%7C01%7C%7Cc63480c7f9a94b13c1bd08d552007f81%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636505084442000619&sdata=1o3%2FMYkyOIXRdJg3m5SE2weuwbyvI%2FDXaF1ux6wenxU%3D&reserved=0>
>>  will mark every ip address as listed to force removal of this server."
>>
>> What the heck? I've tried contacting 
>> realtimeblacklisk.com<https://nam03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Frealtimeblacklisk.com&data=02%7C01%7C%7Cc63480c7f9a94b13c1bd08d552007f81%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636505084442000619&sdata=vCuDN2O4BvqZ9CZMiybGz63jRafY9zO%2FR%2F3skxVeKTo%3D&reserved=0>,
>>  but they're in the Netherlands and apparently fast asleep (in more ways 
>> than one, it seems).
>>
>> -mel beckman
>



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