Steve,

Any customer with a PBX has a valid reason to pass CLI that isn't theirs if 
they are passing through a call.  


Regards,

Dovid


  Original Message  
From: snasl...@medline.com
Sent: April 5, 2018 10:03
To: nanog@nanog.org
Subject: RE: Are any of you starting to get AI robocalls?

If the scam caller is spoofing the numbers then I am not quite sure how 
T-Mobile can implement the block without blocking the legit owner of the 
number.  The way to correct this as an industry is for them to inspect the 
caller-id coming in from their customer and if that customer does not own the 
number or toll free DN they are presenting, the call gets blocked.  I know they 
can do this because our SIP carrier AT&T will not accept outbound calls from us 
unless we present a number assigned to our account so they can bill back for 
the call.  Truthfully, the carriers do not have a real incentive to stop this 
because someone is paying to make all of those calls.  I don't believe for a 
minute that they could not stop this immediately.  A simple rule that you 
cannot make a commercial call without presenting a valid callback number would 
fix this.  There is also the FTC problem.  They do almost nothing to stop the 
violations of the Do Not Call list and you get nothing out of reporting the 
violations.  If the enforcement was anywhere near the requirements of the DCMA 
regulations, this would be reduced drastically.  First step would be to make 
the carriers liable for providing service to these scammers, then they might 
actually care.


Steven Naslund
Chicago IL





-----Original Message-----
From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-boun...@nanog.org] On Behalf Of Ca By
Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2018 7:43 AM
To: Shawn L
Cc: nanog@nanog.org
Subject: Re: Are any of you starting to get AI robocalls?

On Wed, Apr 4, 2018 at 4:19 PM Shawn L via NANOG <nanog@nanog.org> wrote:

>
> Honestly, most carriers I've talked to are fed up as well, and just 
> want to find a way to make it stop.  As some one said, it's exactly 
> like BCP38
> ---  the carriers that care keep their clients from spoofing caller 
> id, etc.  The ones that don't make everyone else look bad.
>

Some carriers have a free scam call block feature

https://newsroom.t-mobile.com/news-and-blogs/scam-block.htm

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