Of course not, but do you really want to be sued? Even if the US courts decline to accept GDPR cases, which is not at all a given since we have a long history of bilateral enforcement, it costs money to deal with and I don't want to worry that I'm going to fly one day to a country that will enforce civil penalties.
While I don't tell most people or companies to worry if they only do business in the US I also don't think it's a good idea to simply thumb your nose at the EU regulators. Some North American direct marketing and data collection firms are definitely going to get a rude, and expensive, awakening despite not having any EU operations. On Wed, May 23, 2018 at 8:49 AM, Mike Hammett <na...@ics-il.net> wrote: > *shrugs* Me hurting the EU's feelings is rather low on the list of things > I care about. > > > > > ----- > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions > http://www.ics-il.com > > Midwest-IX > http://www.midwest-ix.com > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "K. Scott Helms" <kscotthe...@gmail.com> > To: "Mike Hammett" <na...@ics-il.net> > Cc: "NANOG list" <nanog@nanog.org> > Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2018 7:46:19 AM > Subject: Re: Whois vs GDPR, latest news > > > Sadly this isn't true. While I doubt the EU regulators are going to come > head hunting for companies any time soon they do have mechanisms in place > to sanction companies who don't do business in the EU and the scope is > clearly intended to reach where ever the data of EU natural persons is > being held. > > > https://gdpr-info.eu/art-3-gdpr/ > > > > I asked one of the EU regulators at RSA how they intended to enforce GDPR > violations on businesses that don't operate in their jurisdiction and > without hesitation he told me they'd use civil courts to sue the offending > companies. > > > On Wed, May 23, 2018 at 8:36 AM, Mike Hammett < na...@ics-il.net > wrote: > > > If you don't have operations in the EU, you can not so politely tell the > EU to piss off. > > > > > ----- > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions > http://www.ics-il.com > > Midwest-IX > http://www.midwest-ix.com > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Matthew Kaufman" < matt...@matthew.at > > To: "Fletcher Kittredge" < fkitt...@gwi.net > > Cc: "NANOG list" < nanog@nanog.org > > Sent: Monday, May 21, 2018 8:07:15 PM > Subject: Re: Whois vs GDPR, latest news > > > > On Mon, May 21, 2018 at 1:56 PM Fletcher Kittredge < fkitt...@gwi.net > > wrote: > > > What about my right to not have this crap on NANOG? > > > > > What about the likely truth that if anyone from Europe mails the list, > then > every mail server operator with subscribers to the list must follow the > GDPR Article 14 notification requirements, as the few exceptions appear to > not apply (unless you’re just running an archive). > > Matthew > > > > > >