Then Africa in particular is specifically disadvantaged - I spent a good deal of time in Haiti and 4G connectivity was abundant at good speeds, as were terrestrial fiber connections.
Mirrors my experience in half a dozen other 3rd world countries. Unless there’s something particularly oppressive about Africa? > On May 28, 2018, at 5:06 PM, Scott Weeks <sur...@mauigateway.com> wrote: > > --- mpet...@netflight.com wrote: > From: Matthew Petach <mpet...@netflight.com> > On Mon, May 28, 2018 at 11:22 AM, Ben Cannon <b...@6by7.net> wrote: > >> I’m sorry I simply believe that in 2018 with the advanced and cheap ptp >> radio (ubiquiti anyone? $300 and I have a 200mbit/sec link over 10miles! >> Spend a bit more and go 100km) plus the advancements in cubesats about to >> be launched, even the 3rd world can simply get with the times. > > I do not think you adequately understand the economics of the > situation. > > https://www.slideshare.net/InternetSociety/international-bandwidth-and-pricing-trends-in-subsahara-africa-79147043 > > slide 22, IP transit cost. > > Your 200mbit/sec link that costs you $300 in hardware > is going to cost you $4960/month to actually get IP traffic > across, in Nairobi. Yes, that's about $60,000/year. > > Could *you* afford to "get with the times" if that's what > your bandwidth was going to cost you? > > Please, do a little research on what the real > costs are before telling others they need to > "simply get with the times." > ----------------------------------------- > > > > Also, please don't just look at continental countries > when researching. Look at the small PICs (Pacific > Island Countries). For example, search the posts from > Christian on Kiribati on the PICISOC list. The cost is > extraordinary and all the ego-flattering bloat rsk > speaks (relevant part of the post id below) of in very > expensive to download and is nearly impossible to stop. > > scott > > > > * >> The problem (part of the problem) is that the people doing these foolish >> things are new, ignorant, and privileged: they don't realize that bandwidth >> is still an expensive and scarce resource for most of the planet. I've >> said for years that every web designer should be forced to work in an >> environment bandlimited to 56K in order to instll in them the virtue >> of frugality and strongly discourage them from flattering their egos >> by creating all-singing all-dancing web sites...that look great in the >> portfolios they'll show to their peers but are horribly bloated, slow, >> unrenderable in a lot of browsers, and fraught with security and privacy >> problems. (Try pointing a text-only browser at your favorite website. >> Can you even read the home page?) > > >