As Mike points out, there are a lot of us doing fixed-wireless / microwave now.
We have our own industry. See: http://wispa.org/ -- Keefe John CEO Ethoplex Direct: 262.345.5200 -------------------- Ethoplex Business Internet http://www.ethoplex.com/ Signal Residential Internet http://www.signalisp.com/ https://www.linkedin.com/in/keefejohn/ On Mon, Jul 16, 2018 at 11:56 AM, Michael Crapse <mich...@wi-fiber.io> wrote: > Microwave radios are the things that break the mold of the incorrect > assumption that just because it doesn't make sense to put up more wires to > a house you can't have more than one provider. Considering that we've > deployed a few wireless systems with less latency, jitter, and downtime > than the local incumbent DOCSIS provider. In fact the greatest benefit to > wireless microwave systems is the fact that they do not need to follow the > right of way. Where wireline and fiberoptics must go through more hubs to > get from side of town to the other, wireless is a point to point system > with latencies+jitter sub 400 microseconds. > > No matter how great the incumbent fiber/dsl/coaxial network becomes, there > will always be new microwave links going up. For their biggest strengths > there's no replacement. > Now, their weaknesses may be many, and may be apparent, their stengths just > outweigh those. > > On 16 July 2018 at 10:01, Mike Hammett <na...@ics-il.net> wrote: > > > No idea where you were at, but lots of big companies have done microwave > > and lots of new companies do microwave. > > > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MCI_Communications > > > > MCI was founded as Microwave Communications, Inc. on October 3, 1963 with > > John D. Goeken being named the company's first president. The initial > > business plan was for the company to build a series of microwave relay > > stations between Chicago, Illinois and St. Louis, Missouri. The relay > > stations would then be used to interface with limited-range two-way > radios > > used by truckers along U.S. Route 66 or by barges on the Illinois > Waterway. > > > > > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sprint_Corporation > > > > Southern Pacific maintained an extensive microwave communications system > > along its rights-of-way that the railroad used for internal > communications. > > > > > > AT&T had a bunch and I think a couple sites are still active: > > http://long-lines.net/ > > > > Western Union had a microwave network as well. > > > > > > > > > > Lots of companies build microwave for internal communications. Rail and > > utility companies are big here. > > > > All of the cell companies do some microwave in their more rural areas. > > > > Lots of independent ISPs use microwave to build their entire network. > > > > > > > > > > ----- > > Mike Hammett > > Intelligent Computing Solutions > > http://www.ics-il.com > > > > Midwest-IX > > http://www.midwest-ix.com > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: "Miles Fidelman" <mfidel...@meetinghouse.net> > > To: nanog@nanog.org > > Sent: Saturday, July 14, 2018 9:54:25 AM > > Subject: (perhaps off topic, but) Microwave Towers > > > > Hi Folks, > > > > I find myself driving down Route 66. On our way through Arizona, I was > > surprised by what look like a lot of old-style microwave links. They > > pretty much follow the East-West rail line - where I'd expect there's a > > lot of fiber buried. > > > > Struck me as somewhat interesting. > > > > It also struck me that folks here might have some comments. > > > > Miles Fidelman > > > > -- > > In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice. > > In practice, there is. .... Yogi Berra > > > > > > > -- Keefe John CEO Ethoplex Direct: 262.345.5200 -------------------- Ethoplex Business Internet http://www.ethoplex.com/ Signal Residential Internet http://www.signalisp.com/ https://www.linkedin.com/in/keefejohn/