> On Aug 14, 2018, at 8:04 PM, Randy Bush <ra...@psg.com> wrote:
> 
> follow-on question:
> 
> anyone using the timed key-chain stuff?

I’ve looked at it, hear it works, but not been willing to take the hit for any 
transition.

I talked about some of this and other challenges at SAAG WG at IETF 101.  
Transport area has some possible interesting things, but similar to what Haas 
said, TCP-AO isn’t really viable yet, and we need something that’s stable 
enough to last 5-7 years, which is very different from a HTTP transaction that 
may live only a few seconds.

We have some places where we could transition non-BGP protocols and rotate the 
key, but last I recall it was only there on a single vendor so multi-vendor 
posed some challenges.

- Jared

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