I would see if you can get your upstream providers to apply rules to a 
dedicated interface upstream (drop NTP, memcache, LDAP, rate limit SSDP), and 
connect that to your switch, which would announce the /32’s or /128’s to pull 
the traffic over. You would of course have to announce the /24 or /48 through 
the carrier that has the filters in place to ensure they get all the traffic. 
After post processing the spoofed traffic, it should leave you with flooding to 
take care of.

--
Ryan Hamel
Network Administrator
ryan.ha...@quadranet.com | +1 (888) 578-2372
QuadraNet Enterprises, LLC. | Dedicated Servers, Colocation, Cloud

From: NANOG <nanog-boun...@nanog.org> On Behalf Of Tim Jackson
Sent: Tuesday, November 06, 2018 11:52 AM
To: na...@ics-il.net
Cc: nanog list <nanog@nanog.org>
Subject: Re: Switch with high ACL capacity

Juniper QFX10000(including 100002) supports ~64k ACL entries + FlowSpec

--
Tim

On Tue, Nov 6, 2018 at 1:49 PM Mike Hammett 
<na...@ics-il.net<mailto:na...@ics-il.net>> wrote:
The intent is to see if I can construct a poor man's DDOS scrubber. There are 
low cost systems out there for the detection, but they just trigger something 
else to do the work. Obviously there is black hole routing, but I'm looking for 
something with a bit more finesse.

If I need to get a switch anyway, might as well try to take advantage of it for 
other uses.

-----Mike HammettIntelligent Computing SolutionsMidwest Internet ExchangeThe 
Brothers WISP

----- Original Message -----
From: Lotia, Pratik M 
<pratik.lo...@charter.com<mailto:pratik.lo...@charter.com>>
To: Mike Hammett <na...@ics-il.net<mailto:na...@ics-il.net>>, 'nanog list' 
<nanog@nanog.org<mailto:nanog@nanog.org>>
Sent: Tue, 06 Nov 2018 12:29:15 -0600 (CST)
Subject: Re: Switch with high ACL capacity

Mike,

Can you shed some light on the use case? Looks like you are confusing ACLs and 
BGP Flowspec. ACLs and Flowspec rules are similar in some ways but they have a 
different use case. ACLs cannot be configured using Flowspec announcements. 
Flowspec can be loosely explained as 'Routing based on L4 rules' (there's a lot 
more to it than just L4). I doubt if a there is a Switch which can hold a large 
number of Flowspec entries.


~Pratik Lotia
“Improvement begins with I.”


On 11/6/18, 10:39, "NANOG on behalf of Mike Hammett" 
<nanog-boun...@nanog.org<mailto:nanog-boun...@nanog.org> on behalf of 
na...@ics-il.net<mailto:na...@ics-il.net>> wrote:

    I am looking for recommendations as to a 10G or 40G switch that has the 
ability to hold a large number of entries in ACLs.

    Preferred if I can get them there via the BGP flow spec, but some sort of 
API or even just brute force on the console would be good enough.

    Used or even end of life is fine.

    -----Mike HammettIntelligent Computing SolutionsMidwest Internet 
ExchangeThe Brothers WISP


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