> I agree.  One of the goals of this effort, IMO, should be to avoid
> conflating NAT and stateful firewall functionality.  A firewall is
> much more manageable/configurable than a N:1 or port translating NAT.
> So, I am hopeful that we can explain this well, make it clear how one
> would provide a stateful firewall with this benefit and also define a
> 1:1 algorithmic, non-port-mapping NAT algorithm that can be used when
> translation is actually _wanted_, not as a poor man's substitute for a
> firewall.

As an application developer, I am not so sure. In practice, it takes about the 
same effort to run an application through a NAT and through a basic "stateful" 
firewall. Most of the failures modes in person-to-person applications today are 
caused by firewalls, not buy NATs.

-- Christian Huitema



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