On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 8:57 PM, Erik Kline <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 8:51 PM, Keith Moore <[email protected]> 
> wrote:
>> Tom Pusateri wrote:
>>> So once you limit NAT for IPv6 to a 1:1 mapping (i.e. you no longer
>>> share an address), then it seems like there's isn't a big advantage over
>>> an application gateway.
>>
>> wtf?  application gateways have to be written for each protocol, whereas
>> NATs do not (at least for those protocols that don't do referrals).
>>
>> that makes for a huge deployment mess.  it also breaks apps when the end
>> points upgrade their protocols and the ALGs don't keep track.
>>
>> Keith
>>
>> (now if we're going to have NATs at all, I'm a big fan of having a
>> standard signaling/control protocol that should work for all NATs.  but
>> that's not the same as an application gateway)
>>
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> Actually I would imagine that most applications would just need a
> "generic" TCP or UDP proxy.  In essence a /128 to /128 NAT, with ALGs.
>  Doing this requires listing all traffic mappings that need to be
> permitted.  A lot of work, but explicit allow with implicit deny would
> make most of the security that I know more comfortable.  It would be
> more like have VIPs for things that need them.
>
> 2 cents,
> -Erik
>

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