Mark,

I would guess in the same manner that every application developer that creates 
an application imposes an additional cost on the Network Admin (and their 
companies) to make sure that application doesn't breach their network perimeter 
without authorization.... or every person who chooses to use a different 
version of web browser imposes the cost of supporting that choice on the 
web-site operator...and on every other person that visits that site.

That's part of the reality of the internet. We all impose certain costs on each 
other for the connectivity that we share. However, people are different and one 
man's "unnecessary" is another mans "essential".

Ultimately though, it's upto the individual application developers to determine 
if they want to sink the costs of working with NAT into their application or 
not..... and it's upto individual consumers to determine whether they want to 
carry that cost or not.

If the anti-NAT folks don't want to deal with the costs of supporting it 
(indirectly) the solution is simple... don't buy applications that are designed 
to work with NAT... you won't be carrying any of the costs for it.

If there really is a significant enough number of people out there that don't 
find NAT useful... you should be able to convince plenty of application 
developers not to build support into their products for it. I'm sure that they 
would be happy not to have to deal with that hassle anyways, if they can get 
away with it.








Christopher Engel


-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Monday, November 02, 2009 7:01 PM
To: Chris Engel
Cc: 'Keith Moore'; '[email protected]'
Subject: Re: [nat66] Necessity for NAT remains in IPv6



Chris Engel writes:
> Keith,
>
> The idea that Network Administrators and Corporate IT are some-how
> less quali fied to weigh the cost/benefits of choosing to use NAT vs
> specific applicatio ns then their end users are is a strange notion to
> say the least. As is the i dea that they don't have to deal with the
> consequences of those decisions.

Chris, its not just the network that uses a NAT that pays for the cost of the 
NAT.  Every network user pays for the cost of NAT in higher products costs 
incured from needing to provide products that will work in the presence of NAT 
even if that don't actually use a NAT or not.

People are anti NAT because this is a unnecessary cost that pro NAT people are 
imposing on everyone else.  It an added complication that is not needed.

NAT44 was a necessary evil as we had effectively run out IPv4 addresses.

Mark

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