Hi there, On Tue, 2008-07-01 at 23:37 +0200, Christian Neumair wrote: > However, after reading the extensive comprehensible argumentation by > Alex, David and Kristoffer, and after actually playing around with > Konqueror and Dolphin, I must say that now I am against such a proposal.
:-) > The coding complexity for merging all the menus in a proper way is just > not worth the effort. So - lets split them; put the 'system' ones below any the user happens to have configured [ to save muscle memory ], and add a nice toggle button to the menu to let them easily disable the system templates from showing up (?). > Also, the template system of KDE does not seem to integrate in a nice > way: They don't even use OnlyShowIn Easy enough to ask them to fix; and more their problem than ours. > and have weird non-standard URL references like > > URL=.source/DVDROM-Device.desktop That is a relative URL from the current directory; ls -a will show you the .source directory. More concerning to me would be the nastiness (in general) of "device" .desktop files - but adding some OnlyShowIn goodness would hide them from nautilus users at least. > Besides, the UI of Dolphin and Konqueror randomly adds separators and > submenus to the UI which also do not seem to be specified anywhere in > the source template files. Sounds broken :-) we don't have to do that. > I love how everybody cares about the users, but for this use-case > skeletons and symlinks are definitely enough. So - really; do any distros actually configure a skeleton with nautilus templates included ? how are they implemented ? with symlinks ? if so, how does it feel never being able to move the destination files again ? ;-) or is it the case that we ship something not that usable out of the box on ~all distros ? :-) > Sorry for all the noise and for the slalom - nobody is perfect :). Keep slalom'ing ;-) I'd like to propose two things: adding a check-box to turn that thing off - either in the menu, or in some settings place for the power-users who stuffed that menu full of their own templates already. Adding system templates at the bottom - after a separator, and implementing some more .desktop file magic to create "template apps" - which can be passed a path [ to the relevant directory ] and present a pretty UI for creating a template right there. How does that sound ? Thanks, Michael. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] <><, Pseudo Engineer, itinerant idiot -- nautilus-list mailing list nautilus-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/nautilus-list