Hello, Sorry for any confusion the cross post came from
https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraprojec t.org/thread/SQCBUTTROOM6GRX3MUZZN3WKZSP42K3E/ My thoughts are that the functionally should be available to be able development of sync of contacts, notes, photos, calender and meeting info etc which is clearly lacking between any linux device and an idevices, That which is considered the IP or copyright of the idevice owner or is considered in the public domain. But should not extend to the music database or any other area that may infringe the commercial or legal writes of the manufacturer of the idevice or developers of any software on the idevice or any non idevice owners copyrighted material in any form whatsoever. Unfortunately when you open the door it could be extended to area's above, so even having the support optional when we are dealing with floss software with released source code may be impossible to actually stop. I am not aware of any restriction but the post on fedora devel mailing list may reveal something in that regard. I hope that a path can be found to allow integration for the above which in my opinion is overdue for the linux device. Best Regards Timothy Ward On Sun, 2016-09-25 at 10:15 -0400, Carlos Soriano wrote: > Hello, > > > The email without context was hard to follow. Would be nice to have some explanation what is the email about for next time :) > > > > Regarding the properties in the sidebar, no idea why we decided to not show it. To me it makes sense to show that in every entry in the sidebar (except Other Locations). > > Also, this should go directly into gvfs or so and I think some part of the UI integrated in Nautilus would be cool too. > > > Any reason to not do that upstream? We can make the support optional if there are legal issues for some distributions. > > Best regards, > Carlos Soriano > > > > > > -------- Original Message -------- > > Subject: nautilus gvfs-afc property page info > > Local Time: September 25, 2016 3:38 PM > > UTC Time: September 25, 2016 1:38 PM > > From: gtwa...@gmail.com > > To: nautilus-list@gnome.org > > > > Posted from a thread on fedora develop list as info for nautilus > > > > maintainers and developers. > > > > > > > > Yup. The "normal" mount contains nothing that normal users should > > > > access. > > > > > > > Accessing the photos will leave ghosts on the device, and there have > > > > been no > > > > > > > ways to update the music database in Linux for a few iOS releases. > > > > > > > > I very much doubt that anyone would release any code to touch an > > > > idevice music database due to fear of > > > > legal action from the manufacturer. It may exist already. > > > > > > > > The ability to sync contacts, calendars and events, meeting info, > > > > > > notes, pictures etc ( anything that would be considered the personal > > > > > > data entered by the idevice owner is another matter entirely. Anything > > > > > > that the law provides in most countries such as the IP to that person > > > > > > or the copyright of documents or photos etc, and yes it can be a very > > > > > > grey area between the laws in different countries. This is just the > > > > > > other side of the coin but this time from the owners perspective and > > > > legal rights. > > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > > > > You can still access the device by editing the URL in the "Documents > > > > on..." > > > > > location. Just remove the ":3" at the end. > > > > > > > > Thanks for this info, > > > > > > > > > > > > If you have use cases that aren't the 2 mentioned above, or using > > > > your iDevice > > > > > as a thumb drive, please file bugs against gvfs in the upstream > > > > GNOME Bugzilla. > > > > > > > > > > Cheers > > > > > > > > > > > > > > While I agree for the normal non developer user, the removal, to be > > > > > > able to access what you could originally access, on the idevice before > > > > the code change, may be of little value. > > > > > > > > > > It is frustrating if you are developing applications and need access > > > > > > to these areas for debugging, checking directory, files and structure > > > > etc of the idevice. > > > > > > > > It is even more frustrating when the Fedora workstation is being > > > > targetted as a developer's platform, and it also affects any > > > > downstream distribution developers in the same way. > > > > > > > > While nautilus still exposes the pictures on an idevice > > > > through gphoto2 system does not seem to have changed. > > > > > > > > > > As far as I am aware it is possible to copy pictures from the idevice > > > > > > but transfers of pictures to the idevice will succeed, but will not be > > > > shown on the idevice by native apps without further hacking. > > > > > > > > The other mount exposes the so called document folder of some user > > > > > > installed apps on the idevice and may be useful for someone developing > > > > but is off limited use to a normal non developer user, unless the > > > > normal non developer wants to use the phone as a usb drive to > > > > transport files without carrying an extra usb drive. > > > > > > > > The removal of the nautilus properties page on a connected idevice > > > > does have an effect that a nautilus-ideviceinfo extension that has > > > > > > been in gnome git for many years cannot be easily exposed and used and > > > > > > a gnome bugzilla entry has been active from last year without even a > > > > comment to date. > > > > > > > > https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=741302 > > > > > > > > https://git.gnome.org/browse/nautilus-ideviceinfo/log/?ofs=100 > > > > > > > > > > http://blog.sukimashita.com/2015/01/09/gtk-3-support-for-nautilus- idev > > > > iceinfo/ > > > > > > > > I hope this can be resolved in the short term as it provides all > > > > users of idevices with info that is expected today and further > > > > benefits the foss community and the goals of Fedora, Gnome and > > > > downstream distributions etc. > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > >
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