I'm sorry, I forgot to attach the screenshot.
------- Original Message -------
On Tuesday, November 1st, 2022 at 5:18 PM, bravephoenixbird via ncc-services-wg
<[email protected]> wrote:
> Hi everyone,
>
> In fact, as Artem and Maxim Tulyev said, the threat of physical violence may
> exist.
>
> I would like to show you communication history in the Ukrainian
> Telecommunication community which is called "Telecom Ukraine" ( Of course
> these messages have already been deleted. But we have a grateful option -
> screenshot.)
>
> Here is the screenshot
>
> Let me translate what's going on in this screenshot.
>
> That's what Alexandr Glushchenko said:
> RIPE is "an apolitical" organization, but for the money. When the Russians
> will be shelling Amsterdam, I want to believe in the permanence of their
> course.
>
> And that's what Olexandr Fedienko replied to his message:
> "I am already looking forward to it"
>
> Oleksandr Fedienko is a people's deputy of Ukraine, member of the Committee
> of the Verkhovna Rada of Ukraine.
> Alexandr Glushchenko is a former Ukrainian Internet Association board member.
>
>
>
> [image.png]
>
>
>
> ------- Original Message -------
> On Tuesday, November 1st, 2022 at 4:56 PM, Max Tulyev [email protected]
> wrote:
>
>
> > Hi All,
> >
> > 01.11.22 08:13, FAP_IMC пише:
> >
> > > Здравствуйте, .
> >
> > The Great Patriot begins his speech in Russian. Nice.
> >
> > > Dear colleagues, my name is Oleksandr Fedienko.
> > > I think it's not every day that parliamentarians write to you here, but
> > > considering that recently I have been mentioned quite often in
> > > correspondence, I want to write something from myself.
> > >
> > > A little about myself, I started working for an internet company around
> > > 1993 and have worked in the digital communications industry all my life.
> > > I have personally built many Internet companies, am a certified expert in
> > > cyber security, OSINT, have four higher education degrees, and now have a
> > > master's degree in law.
> > >
> > > For five years in a row, he was elected to the Internet Association of
> > > Ukraine, becoming the chairman of the board, and defending the interests
> > > of our industry.
> > > This is so that you, dear community, have an idea about my competence.
> >
> > I agree you have deep professional knowledge. That's true. And that's
> > really scare me because of the way you use this knowledge.
> >
> > You was the author or the notorious law draft about the IMEI database,
> > which forces mobile operators to stop serving mobile devices does not
> > listed in your database. All the market was against it, and it was very
> > difficult for us to stop it.
> >
> > You was the author of the first draft of the law for electronic
> > communications. Of course, your lovely IMEI registry was included there,
> > as well as obliging ISPs to install the government-controlled devices
> > for censorship and surveillance (same as Russia has SORM-3 and TSPU).
> > And in general to expand ancient, bureaucratic and bribery-based telco
> > regulatory to the Internet. A huge work was done by InAU and other NGOs
> > to clean that shit out. Now you are trying to return it back to that law
> > step by step by amendments, as during the war time it is very difficult
> > to work for NGOs and human right activists in Ukraine.
> >
> > Also you forget to mention your third new education you got after
> > elected to the parliament. You are really excellent in it. You are
> > master of lie, disinformation and manipulation. I will show some good
> > examples below.
> >
> > > Unfortunately, in addition to the fact that we need to take care of the
> > > security of our cyberspace, we already have cases when IP addresses, in
> > > the occupied territories of Ukraine, which are routed in the networks of
> > > Ukrainian operators, begin to be re-issued to other companies.
> >
> > Yes. There are transfers from the territory in distress. But there are
> > NO FACTS of ANY forced transfer. This is your manipulation.
> >
> > > I would like to draw your attention to the fact that we expect that there
> > > may also be a military intervention from the side of Belarus, so the
> > > transfer blocking mechanisms IP adress should be in place throughout
> > > Ukraine.
> >
> > Manipulation. Yes, we afraid of intervention from Belarus. But there is
> > NO LOGICAL LINK, nothing to do with "so the transfer blocking mechanisms
> > IP adress should be in place throughout Ukraine". You try to make a
> > EMOTIONAL link between these two sentences and let it change the logical
> > link. Like in media manipulation handbooks, yes?
> >
> > > I want to draw attention to the instructions for bots that Mr. Maksym is
> > > currently promoting, which is used to form the opinion of a supposedly
> > > community from Ukraine. And also on the not quite modern mechanism of
> > > digital information exchange on the platform of RIPE NCC.
> >
> > Lie. These people are not bots. These are real IP resource holders (it
> > can be easily checked by NCC staff with e-mails) that I woke up. They
> > are scare now, and write what they are afraid of.
> >
> > And of course, I will try to wake up more people whom you try to rob.
> >
> > Meanwhile, as we can see, your bots can only do a cut and paste.
> >
> > > I hope that until RIPE NCC implements a secure transfer of IP addresses,
> > > all transfers on the territory of Ukraine will be closed.
> >
> > Manipulation. RIPE NCC due diligence is secure enough now. There was no
> > evidences for any forced transfer inside Ukraine. And for 1000% sure it
> > is not a common situation that is too serious to close all Ukrainian
> > transfers.
> >
> > And for the last, I will remind your behavior, such as the style of your
> > language and public treats as we found out not only to me. I don't know
> > was it enough to be a crime in Europe, but for sure in any European
> > country you will be kicked out with disgrace from the parliament just
> > next day.
> >
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