Dear Jim, Hisham,

Agree and support the point this should be a Contribution proper and not an 
(unrequested LS). I recall RIPE NCC is a full sector member of ITU-T, so there 
should not be any obstacle to submit a contribution – apart from a now tight 
deadline – and, as a member, RIPE NCC staff should also be part of the 
subsequent discussion and decision.

Especially given the current situation is largely attributed to 
miscommunication and misunderstandings, I think it is essential for RIPE NCC 
staff to be present and participate, up to and including the closing plenary.

As for the content - I think indeed a "this didn't happen" should be considered 
a reasonable outcome for all parties concerned.

Last I looked, the e164.arpa zone was not empty. And I know of at least one 
delegation that still functions both administratively and technically (that 
operator identified itself on the mailing list).

Any responsible DNS operator would not close a zone with active delegations, at 
least not without a proper risk assessment and a plan. As Jim suggested, better 
not drag this on and move along quickly – nothing to see, nothing happened.

My two cents as a long time participant in ITU and with an even longer track 
record in Internet Governance.

Best,

MarcoH
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> On 24 Aug 2026, at 15:36, Jim Reid <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> 
> 
>> On 17 Aug 2026, at 15:48, Hisham Ibrahim <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>> I would appreciate feedback on my draft and I would appreciate it if you 
>> could share any comments or concerns, particularly on the technical, 
>> procedural or governance aspects, by 25 August, so that the RIPE NCC can 
>> incorporate the feedback before finalizing the submission.
> 
> Hisham, your proposed document is deeply flawed and unfit for purpose. That 
> means I object to your proposal and obviously do not support it. I could go 
> into this in detail but there's not enough time to do that. A submission to 
> the next Study Group 2 meeting has to be submitted by tomorrow. BTW, that 
> submission must be submitted as a Contribution. It can't be a Liaison 
> Statement. Contact me off-list if you want an explanation.
> 
> The Contribution that gets submitted by the NCC must be short and leave no 
> loose ends that would open opportunities for nit-picking, requests for 
> clarification, further unwelcome interference by the ITU and so on. Your 
> suggested text won't do that. The objective must be to kill off C196 and 
> leave no opportunities at ITU for exhuming it. C196 needs two shots to the 
> head, just to be sure. If C196 drags on and on and on, it will be bad for 
> everyone.
> 
> Here's the text that should go in this Contribution. I hope it gets community 
> support.
> 
> The RIPE NCC regrets to inform Study Group 2 and the TSB that Contribution 
> SG2-C-0196 (C196), was ill-prepared and based on misunderstandings. It does 
> not reflect the opinion of the NCC or the RIPE Community. The RIPE NCC 
> sincerely apologises for the confusion which has been caused. C196 should 
> therefore be withdrawn. We respectfully request colleagues pay no further 
> attention to C196 and proceed on the basis it had never been submitted to 
> Study Group 2.
> 
> We are happy to confirm there are no technical or procedural changes to the 
> operation of the e164.arpa ENUM registry. RIPE NCC is pleased to inform Study 
> Group 2 and the TSB that the current, long-standing agreements around this 
> registry remain in place and are unchanged. It has no plans to alter them. 
> The RIPE NCC will continue to operate this registry in the same neutral, 
> stable and professional manner as it has done since e164.arpa was created.
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