Hi Wayne,

Thank you for your answser.

Well, the current situation seems to be blurry. Last year Corel lost a
patent lawsuit and this article [1] explains that nobody can clarify the
situation.

Do you think that  the IP team can get in touch with Microsoft's legal
department ?

Laurent

[1] https://www.infoq.com/news/2018/02/Ribbon-UI


Le mer. 6 mars 2019 à 21:12, EMO EMO <e...@eclipse-foundation.org> a écrit :

> I don't see anything in the thread that suggests that the legal situation
> has changed from what's been captured in CQ 3187
> <https://dev.eclipse.org/ipzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3187>. Does anybody have
> any insight into whether not the license on this content has changed?
>
> Whatever the case, if you want to pursue this, send a note to
> lice...@eclipse.org to ask for help. Your request will get addressed
> faster if you can provide pointers to the current state Microsoft's legal
> claims on the topic.
>
> Wayne
>
> On Wed, Mar 6, 2019 at 4:17 AM Wim Jongman <wim.jong...@remainsoftware.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Hi Laurent,
>>
>>
>>
>> That is great news! Do you think we should contact Microsoft to know if
>> we can reverse engineer the ribbbon? Maybe the EMO (in cc) is able to
>> advise us.
>>
>>
>>
>> We are talking about recreating the Microsoft Ribbon which is attached in
>> a picture.
>>
>>
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>>
>>
>> Wim
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* nebula-dev-boun...@eclipse.org [mailto:
>> nebula-dev-boun...@eclipse.org] *On Behalf Of *Laurent Caron
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, 5 March 2019 23:29
>> *To:* Nebula Dev
>> *Subject:* Re: [nebula-dev] Question about "Ribbon"
>>
>>
>>
>> Hi Team,
>>
>>
>>
>> Well I've checked RWT and the source code has not been published.
>>
>>
>>
>> So I've decided to start to work on this feature. Do you know any "flat
>> icon" library that can be included in a EPL project ?
>>
>>
>>
>> Have a nice evening,
>>
>>
>>
>> Laurent
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Le lun. 25 févr. 2019 à 10:10, Laurent Caron <laurent.ca...@gmail.com> a
>> écrit :
>>
>> Hi Ralf,
>>
>>
>>
>> I agree with you: Microsoft is very proud of Ribbon Bar (that's why it
>> has been introduced in the File Explorer of Windows 10), but the gap for
>> users is very important. I remember the arrival of Office 2007, many people
>> where puzzled, but once
>>
>> you accustomed, you are very productive. I agree also with the fact that
>> companies should take care of this UI feature, it can be a big mess (as far
>> as I know, the Ribbon was tested during 2 years by Microsoft Labs before
>> being shipped).
>>
>>
>>
>> I never heard about RWT but I'll have a look, thanks.
>>
>>
>>
>> By the way, does anyone interested in this project ?
>>
>>
>>
>> Laurent
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Le dim. 24 févr. 2019 à 23:16, Ralf Heydenreich <rheyd...@justmail.de> a
>> écrit :
>>
>> Am 24.02.2019 um 17:29 schrieb Laurent Caron:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>>
>>
>> Well if my level of Wim's language is good enough, a sentence with the
>> word "batmobile" means "Green light" 😉
>>
>>
>>
>> As far as I remember, the look of Hexapixel's ribbon was really close to
>> the "office 2007" look... Nowadays, Word's ribbon is more flat, without
>> gradient...
>>
>> So my question is : should we start from the original ribbon by Emi,
>> should we build a new project from scratch or should we migrate project
>> like FXRibbon ([1]) from JavaFX to SWT ?
>>
>>
>>
>> I'm interested by this widget, who else ?
>>
>>
>>
>> Laurent
>>
>>
>>
>> [1] https://www.pixelduke.com/fxribbon/
>>
>>
>>
>> Hi Laurent,
>>
>> a few months ago I've also player around with the Hexapixel Ribbon
>> library, but I've decided to not use it. I think, the concept of a "ribbon
>> bar" is specific for Microsoft applications, especially for Windows users.
>> MaOS and Linux users have other UI concepts.
>>
>> Nonetheless, I think we can work on such a ribbon widget for SWT, since a
>> lot of applications are running under Windows (in my experience). Therefore
>> it's good to have a well known concept of a UI.
>>
>> Btw, there's also a "Ribbon Widget Toolkit" (
>> https://code.google.com/archive/p/rwt/), but it is completely in Chinese
>> language and I haven't work with it.
>>
>> Ralf
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Le dim. 24 févr. 2019 à 11:57, Wim Jongman <
>> wim.jong...@remainsoftware.com> a écrit :
>>
>> IIRC someone said there is no patent issue anymore.
>>
>> To the batmobile, let's go.
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> *From:* nebula-dev-boun...@eclipse.org <nebula-dev-boun...@eclipse.org>
>> on behalf of Christian Pontesegger <christian.ponteseg...@web.de>
>> *Sent:* Sunday, February 24, 2019 8:59:34 AM
>> *To:* Nebula Dev
>> *Subject:* Re: [nebula-dev] Question about "Ribbon"
>>
>>
>>
>> Interesting IP situation. Do you now, does Eclipse try to sort out such
>> issues, eg by contacting Microsoft to find an alternate way of
>> licensing?
>>
>> Christian
>>
>>
>>
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