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Today's topics:

* Telling the truth at interviews for Java positions - 2 messages, 2 authors
  
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/comp.lang.java.programmer/browse_thread/thread/b3bba249c109316a
* newbie - 1 messages, 1 author
  
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/comp.lang.java.programmer/browse_thread/thread/ca1e2e741e203cc6
* Corba & RemoteException - 1 messages, 1 author
  
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/comp.lang.java.programmer/browse_thread/thread/a4041e8f9a834b54
* opinion on coding standard - 2 messages, 2 authors
  
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/comp.lang.java.programmer/browse_thread/thread/1f96751a1d317c1a
* Multiple references to simple type-variables - 2 messages, 2 authors
  
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/comp.lang.java.programmer/browse_thread/thread/7f02fa2953a07b98
* Cell phones and java - 2 messages, 2 authors
  
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/comp.lang.java.programmer/browse_thread/thread/461d3665e0cf09d0
* Applet and clickable text/label - 1 messages, 1 author
  
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/comp.lang.java.programmer/browse_thread/thread/fc30d97d8f00da14
* efficient network transfer - 2 messages, 2 authors
  
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/comp.lang.java.programmer/browse_thread/thread/6996ec6c1fb6cf53
* Problem with Tiles/Struts on WSAD 5 - 1 messages, 1 author
  
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/comp.lang.java.programmer/browse_thread/thread/ec359d8e0d5e9d8c
* Down and dirty Britney Spears - 1 messages, 1 author
  
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/comp.lang.java.programmer/browse_thread/thread/62e11c123d744ed
* Ain't JDialog tricky? - 3 messages, 3 authors
  
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/comp.lang.java.programmer/browse_thread/thread/e16946e45b708039
* Java Career Questions - 4 messages, 4 authors
  
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/comp.lang.java.programmer/browse_thread/thread/b2c43e3a96c2d70e
* webapplication does not display tiff images - 1 messages, 1 author
  
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/comp.lang.java.programmer/browse_thread/thread/ac1ffc6aa73a2d74
* JBoss to go closed source? - 2 messages, 2 authors
  
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/comp.lang.java.programmer/browse_thread/thread/4a8dda54906ca8df
* UML class diagram generator - 1 messages, 1 author
  
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/comp.lang.java.programmer/browse_thread/thread/a8241734de4805c3
* NIO using - 1 messages, 1 author
  
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/comp.lang.java.programmer/browse_thread/thread/f3f26d7d2ff77c3d
  
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TOPIC: Telling the truth at interviews for Java positions
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/comp.lang.java.programmer/browse_thread/thread/b3bba249c109316a
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date:   Tues,   Nov 23 2004 2:20 pm
From: Sudsy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 

lyallex wrote:
<snip>
> hmm, that must mean you know all about the latest J2SE and EJB
> releases and Swing and Jakarta and Struts and all the other millions
> of things Java out there
> 
> Sorry, I don't believe you.

Did you see my sig? I could elaborate but you might consider it "blowing
my own horn".

> There is more to life than money my friend. I have to enjoy going to
> work or I won't do it. 
> 
> the point I was making is that I was lied to in the interview. If you
> have had such an experience then I am interested to hear from you, if
> not, save your breath.

I was engaged to implement LDAP gateway in C. I ended up doing mostly
Java and very little C. Did they lie to me? Not at all. Once they learned
of my other skills they chose to partake of my experience.
Sorry, but I still don't see what you're complaining about...

-- 
Java/J2EE/JSP/Struts/Tiles/C/UNIX consulting and remote development.




== 2 of 2 ==
Date:   Tues,   Nov 23 2004 5:41 pm
From: "Gary Labowitz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 

"Chris Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> lyallex <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I have just escaped from a rather unpleasent organization here in the
> > UK. At both the interviews I attended I made it quite plain that I was
> > after a senior Java developers position. I even made my position clear
> > to the MD. At all times I was assured that the position I was applying
> > for WAS a senior position and the salary appeared to reflect this.
> >
> > In the four and a half months I endured this nightmare I did not
> > recieve a single project that was anywhere near what I would call
> > senior.
<<snip>>
> That seems to confirm my suspicion that you weren't lied to, but simply
> misunderstood the work that existed at the organization.

And I would add that it can work both ways. I was sent on a job once that
was listed as a week's work for someone who knew Excel. When I got there the
job involved entering data into a bunch of sheets for salesmen's reports.
After doing one I saw that adding a macro to the template would automate the
entry such that they could do it themselves much quicker. I asked if they
would mind my doing that, they said okay, and I did. I finished the work the
first day and left.
The agency that sent me there was pissed because they were planning to bill
the client for a week and I only put in one day. The job they advertised and
hired for was simplier than the one they needed in this case.
Moral dilemma: should I have simply done what they asked for and wasted a
week? I would have made more money.
Moral dilemma 2: should the OP simply have done the simplier work and taken
the money, or leave and find work that deserved the level of pay for an
expert?

In the long run, the amount of money wasn't significant to me, but the
pleasure of having done the best job I could was.
-- 
Gary






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TOPIC: newbie
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/comp.lang.java.programmer/browse_thread/thread/ca1e2e741e203cc6
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date:   Tues,   Nov 23 2004 2:32 pm
From: "Fahd Shariff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 

Damn! Did i miss one? No problemo...

--
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http://www.fahdshariff.cjb.net
"Let the code do the talking... "





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TOPIC: Corba & RemoteException
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/comp.lang.java.programmer/browse_thread/thread/a4041e8f9a834b54
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date:   Tues,   Nov 23 2004 2:36 pm
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (indo3) 

Little question:
I see that Web Services interfaces or Java RMI interfaces extend
the Remote interface and every method is declared to throw RemoteException.
Why is this not the case at Corba interfaces (the interface a client uses)?




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TOPIC: opinion on coding standard
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/comp.lang.java.programmer/browse_thread/thread/1f96751a1d317c1a
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date:   Tues,   Nov 23 2004 2:49 pm
From: Michael Borgwardt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 

sks wrote:
>>The worst of all is the requirement to have hard tab characters in source
>>files - if someone asks me to do that I just find another job.
> 
> 
> I think using multiple spaces instead of tabs is completely ridiculous.

Then you're thinking wrongly or misunderstood the subject. We're talking
about *source code*. That means, text files that are frequently changed,
by different people, often using different editors, and where correct
indentation is very important for understanding the code.

The problem is that people have different settings for how "wide" a tab
is, and then, as soon as tabs and spaces get mixed (which invariably
happens) the formatting is broken for some people.



== 2 of 2 ==
Date:   Tues,   Nov 23 2004 5:40 pm
From: "Hal Rosser" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 


"John" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Our project leader is making the decision to enforce coding standards
> through the use of our IDE.  While standards and consistency are
> beneficial, I'm unhappy with one limitation of our IDE (IntelliJ IDEA
> 4.5), namely its inability to preserve extra spaces.  I've found that
> a judicious use of spacing can often make code much easier to read and
> consequently to understand.  Below is an example of before and after
> formatting.  For me, the formatted code seems to blur together and is
> much harder to read.  I'm wondering what opinions others might have.

One thing experience will teach you:
Your job is to do what the boss says.
Oops - gotta go do the dishes now - bye



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TOPIC: Multiple references to simple type-variables
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/comp.lang.java.programmer/browse_thread/thread/7f02fa2953a07b98
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date:   Tues,   Nov 23 2004 2:52 pm
From: Michael Borgwardt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 

Jesper Sahner wrote:
> I am not looking for a solution involving heavy object-wrapping,
> because performance is essential for me.

Premature optimization rarely improves performance.



== 2 of 2 ==
Date:   Tues,   Nov 23 2004 5:00 pm
From: "Thomas G. Marshall" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 

Jesper Sahner coughed up:
> Hi!
>
> When working with objects it is possible to have multiple references
> to the same object, e.g.:
> Point p,q;
> p=new Point();
> q=p;
> p.x=5;
> System.out.println(p.x+" "+q.x);
>
> p and q refers to the same object, hence q.x has the same value as
> p.x.

yes, and q and p will actually hold the same reference value (pointer) to
the same data.


> Is the same possible for simple type-variables? - and further:

Primitives?  no.


> Is it possible to "map" an array of simple type variables {i,j,k} to
> an array-structure a[0]-a[2], so that changing e.g. a[0] changes 'i'?

Not precisely.  You can use the java reflection package to peek at the
accessible fields of objects and classes, and do things similar to
retrieving them into an array.


> I am not looking for a solution involving heavy object-wrapping,
> because performance is essential for me.

I don't think you're going to find what you need in java.


>
> Regards,
> Jesper



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TOPIC: Cell phones and java
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/comp.lang.java.programmer/browse_thread/thread/461d3665e0cf09d0
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date:   Tues,   Nov 23 2004 2:57 pm
From: john bailo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 


My boss just showed me the java logo coming up on his cell phone.

Cool.

Questions:

1) Can you recommend a tutorial for writing java apps for cell phones?

2) Are they applications or applets?

3) If I took a simple java applet and had him transfer it to his cell 
phone, could he run it ?





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== 2 of 2 ==
Date:   Tues,   Nov 23 2004 3:16 pm
From: Lothar Kimmeringer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 

On Tue, 23 Nov 2004 14:57:46 -0800, john bailo wrote:

> 1) Can you recommend a tutorial for writing java apps for cell phones?

start with the J2ME-pages of SUN. Download the WDK and read
the docs. This should give you a good start.

> 2) Are they applications or applets?

Midlets.

> 3) If I took a simple java applet and had him transfer it to his cell 
> phone, could he run it ?

No.


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TOPIC: Applet and clickable text/label
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/comp.lang.java.programmer/browse_thread/thread/fc30d97d8f00da14
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date:   Tues,   Nov 23 2004 2:57 pm
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Oscar) 

Hi,

I'm trying to write an applet and I want some text to be clickable. I
don't know if it is possible but I want it to look like normal
huperlinks but act like buttons. If it was possible I would have added
an actionlistener to my labels but that doesnt work... What should I
use instead?

Oscar




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TOPIC: efficient network transfer
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/comp.lang.java.programmer/browse_thread/thread/6996ec6c1fb6cf53
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date:   Tues,   Nov 23 2004 3:31 pm
From: Esmond Pitt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 

Thomas Weidenfeller wrote:
> But what in general gets worse is the attitude of posters like "uzon", 
> or someone going by the name of "Mike Crabs ([EMAIL PROTECTED])" 

Thomas, your feelings about 'someone by the name of "Mike Crabs"' are 
competely irrelevant.

> They post anonymously, via google-groups, often posting homework, and 
> simply can't behave at all. They don't take any advice, treat us as 
> there servants and demand to be spoon-feed.

Again I don't know why you're talking about 'they': I thought we were 
talking about Aaron Uzon who doesn't seem very anonymous, doesn't appear 
to be doing homework, didn't demand to be spoon-fed, and who certainly 
took my advice. What exactly are you talking about? BTW I am engaged 
with a poster such as you describe in the Java Forums so I am aware of 
the phenomenon you describe: I just don't see any evidence for it in 
this thread. What I do see is a lot of out-of-place posturing.

> It was bad to provide a solution. This way you encourage the behavior of 
> people like "uzon" or "Mike Crabs". They just learned that all it takes 
> to get their problems fixed it to insult us and treat us like scum, that 
> they just have to push a little bit harder and unfriendlier to get an 
> answer.

No, it wasn't bad: solutions are what the group is for. I haven't been 
insulted or treated like scum, in fact it is clearly the nitpickers who 
are doing precisely that to Aaron.

> IMHO, the harder they push, the less useful answers they should get, and 
> the more ridicule they should get. Either they learn and behave, or they 
> go away.

Again it is clearly the nitpickers who are doing the hard pushing and 
misbehaving in this case.




== 2 of 2 ==
Date:   Tues,   Nov 23 2004 10:01 pm
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (uzon) 

Esmond Pitt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
> Thomas Weidenfeller wrote:
> > But what in general gets worse is the attitude of posters like "uzon", 
> > or someone going by the name of "Mike Crabs ([EMAIL PROTECTED])" 
> 
> Thomas, your feelings about 'someone by the name of "Mike Crabs"' are 
> competely irrelevant.
> 
> > They post anonymously, via google-groups, often posting homework, and 
> > simply can't behave at all. They don't take any advice, treat us as 
> > there servants and demand to be spoon-feed.
> 
> Again I don't know why you're talking about 'they': I thought we were 
> talking about Aaron Uzon who doesn't seem very anonymous, doesn't appear 
> to be doing homework, didn't demand to be spoon-fed, and who certainly 
> took my advice. What exactly are you talking about? BTW I am engaged 
> with a poster such as you describe in the Java Forums so I am aware of 
> the phenomenon you describe: I just don't see any evidence for it in 
> this thread. What I do see is a lot of out-of-place posturing.
> 
> > It was bad to provide a solution. This way you encourage the behavior of 
> > people like "uzon" or "Mike Crabs". They just learned that all it takes 
> > to get their problems fixed it to insult us and treat us like scum, that 
> > they just have to push a little bit harder and unfriendlier to get an 
> > answer.
> 
> No, it wasn't bad: solutions are what the group is for. I haven't been 
> insulted or treated like scum, in fact it is clearly the nitpickers who 
> are doing precisely that to Aaron.
> 
> > IMHO, the harder they push, the less useful answers they should get, and 
> > the more ridicule they should get. Either they learn and behave, or they 
> > go away.
> 
> Again it is clearly the nitpickers who are doing the hard pushing and 
> misbehaving in this case.


Thank you. I appreciate that. 
Just to settle what has become an entertaining non-java thread-
1. I had no idea people care so much about 'i' vs. 'I' and the like.
 I have no problem making my post 'more readable'. As I'm doing now,
since I see this is a big deal for you.
2. What ticked me off was the attitude Andrew Thompson is using. It's
fine to point out how you think one should post. But the attitude is
out of place.
 Just remember it's a free country (at least where I live) so you can
point it out but I may choose to ignore it. If I do ignore it, and
it's really that uncomfortable for you to read, don't.
3. No, this is not a homework problem. I never said it was. This is my
own project. Not that it makes any difference.
 The feedback was good and to the point- I asked what functions to use
instead of the horrible byte copying I was doing. I got good feedback
about buffered streams and even better, changing the buffer size which
came in very handy.
What's wrong with that kind of help? What's the point of the forums
for?
4. Some of you guys take this way too seriously. It's a forum. Some
people spell ok, some don't. Some use proper grammar, some don't.
Sure, suggesting proper grammar is perfectly legitimate, but it's not
the end of the world. The forums will go on.
Thomas, Who did I treat like scum? Someone who gave me attitude for no
reason?
Andrew, did I miss any 'i's? No hard feelings.




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TOPIC: Problem with Tiles/Struts on WSAD 5
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date:   Tues,   Nov 23 2004 3:58 pm
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Gurudev) 

Hello !

IDE: WSAD 5
AppServer: WTE/WAS
Struts 1.1b

In my defintions file I'm extending a base definition  and overriding
the param if needed.
Now since the base def param has a empty( or null ) value I get the
following error:
    [ServletException in:] Response already committed.' 

This seems to work fine if a valid value (some jsp) is provided 

In the below scenario my ActionFwd is to "app1ReqView". Meanwhile I
also tried setting the ignore="true" attribute and removing the
deifintion from the baseView. Didn't work :(

The thing I dont understand is ever after the above message the
remaning tiles( in this case the button tile and message.jsp) seem to
display properly.

I am not sure if this is a tiles bug or If i am not getting something
right.

TIA,
Guru.

Below are excerpts from my definitions file and the layout. The
problem tile/param is "admData"

<tiles-definitions>
        <definition name="baseView" path="/layouts/tiletemplate.jsp">
                <put name="title" value="" />
                <put name="formAction" value="" />
                <put name="commonData" value="/tiles/common.jsp" />
                <put name="systemData" value="" />
                <put name="admData" value="" />
                <put name="button" value="/tiles/buttonreq.jsp" />
        </definition>

        
        <definition name="app1ReqView" extends="baseView">
                <put name="title" value="BOSS System Request" />
                <put name="formAction" value="/reqsubmit.do?reqsys="app1" />
                <put name="systemData" value="/tiles/app1.jsp" />
        </definition>

        <definition name="app1AdmView" extends="app1ReqView">
                <put name="formAction" value="/admsubmit.do?reqsys=app1" />
                <put name="admData" value="/tiles/app1adm.jsp" />
                <put name="button" value="/tiles/buttonadm.jsp" />
        </definition>

        .....
        .....

tiletemplate.jsp:

<%@ page language="java" %>
<tiles:useAttribute name="formAction" classname="java.lang.String"
scope="page" />
<html:html>
<head>
        <link href="<%=request.getContextPath()%>/themes/app.css"
rel="stylesheet" type="text/css">
        <script language="javascript"
src="<%=request.getContextPath()%>/javascript/apputil.js"></script>
        <title><tiles:getAsString name="title" /></title>
</head>
<body onload="initialize()" class="appform" leftmargin="0"
topmargin="0" marginwidth="0" marginheight="0">
<h4 class="heading"><tiles:getAsString name="title"/></h4>
        <form name="masterform" styleClass="appform" method="POST" 
              action="<%=request.getContextPath()%><%=formAction%>">
                <tiles:get name="commonData" />
                <tiles:get name="systemData" />
                <tiles:get name="admData" ignore="true" />
                <br>
                <tiles:get name="button" />
                <br>
        </form>
        
        <%-- Display messages if any --%>
        <tiles:insert page="/tiles/messages.jsp" />

</body>
</html:html>




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TOPIC: Down and dirty Britney Spears
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/comp.lang.java.programmer/browse_thread/thread/62e11c123d744ed
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date:   Tues,   Nov 23 2004 4:20 pm
From: "amy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 

Cancelled because of virus: Backdoor.Win32.Hackarmy.gen





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TOPIC: Ain't JDialog tricky?
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/comp.lang.java.programmer/browse_thread/thread/e16946e45b708039
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== 1 of 3 ==
Date:   Tues,   Nov 23 2004 4:53 pm
From: DeMarcus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 


Hi,

Why can't I set a title on a JDialog unless I give it an owner?

The problem is that I have a JPanel that fires the JDialog, but
how do I provide the JDialog with a valid owner? Somehow I need
to get hold of a Dialog or a Frame according to the JDialog's
constructors. But how can a JPanel get hold of that?

One thing that makes me believe there's a solution is the dirty
way of creating a JOptionPane and use the createDialog(). What's
that function doing behind the scenes?

Thanks.

    ~ Daniel





== 2 of 3 ==
Date:   Tues,   Nov 23 2004 6:07 pm
From: Michiel Konstapel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 

> The problem is that I have a JPanel that fires the JDialog, but
> how do I provide the JDialog with a valid owner? Somehow I need
> to get hold of a Dialog or a Frame according to the JDialog's
> constructors. But how can a JPanel get hold of that?

Just walk up getParent() recursively until you get a component that's a 
(subclass of) Window or JWindow.
I think there's even a Swing utility method that does just that.
HTH,
Michiel



== 3 of 3 ==
Date:   Tues,   Nov 23 2004 9:25 pm
From: "John McGrath" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 

On 11/23/2004 at 9:07:05 PM, Michiel Konstapel wrote:

> Just walk up getParent() recursively until you get a component that's a
> (subclass of) Window or JWindow.  I think there's even a Swing utility
> method that does just that.

SwingUtilities.getWindowAncestor( Component ).

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Regards,

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TOPIC: Java Career Questions
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/comp.lang.java.programmer/browse_thread/thread/b2c43e3a96c2d70e
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== 1 of 4 ==
Date:   Tues,   Nov 23 2004 5:45 pm
From: "Hal Rosser" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 


"J.Storta" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> I am just getting started in Java programming.
>
> I am trying to find out a few things from people that do Java
> development for a living.
>
> 1)  What, if any, IDE do you use?  NetBeans?  Eclipse?  Other?
***** Learn both*** and be flexible on this
>
> 2)  What do you spend most of your time doing?  Debugging existing
> code?  Writing new code?
******  modifying code *** (some I wrote - some writtem by others)**
> 3)  Aside from the knowing the language itself, what would you say is
> the most important skill to have as a Java Developer?
*** problem-solving skills (thinking logically)
*** plan the work - then work the plan


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== 2 of 4 ==
Date:   Tues,   Nov 23 2004 7:00 pm
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Joseph Kelch) 

[EMAIL PROTECTED] (J.Storta) wrote in message news:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
> I am just getting started in Java programming.  
> 
> I am trying to find out a few things from people that do Java
> development for a living.
> 
> 1)  What, if any, IDE do you use?  NetBeans?  Eclipse?  Other?

We use Oracle JDeveloper at work.  I use Eclipse at home.

> 
> 2)  What do you spend most of your time doing?  Debugging existing
> code?  Writing new code?

Writing new code.  Our business (a not for profit) doesn't give us the
time for much design, but I do my best.

> 
> 3)  Aside from the knowing the language itself, what would you say is
> the most important skill to have as a Java Developer?

Wow, that's a toughy, but if you can get a grasp on J2EE you should be
doing pretty well.

> 
> Thanks.



== 3 of 4 ==
Date:   Tues,   Nov 23 2004 7:03 pm
From: thirdrock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 

Joseph Kelch wrote:

> 
> Writing new code.  Our business (a not for profit) doesn't give us the
> time for much design, but I do my best.
> 


That sounds like a feedback loop. The less design you do, the more code 
you write.




== 4 of 4 ==
Date:   Tues,   Nov 23 2004 8:33 pm
From: "Vincent Cantin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 

>> 2)  What do you spend most of your time doing?  Debugging existing
>> code?  Writing new code?
>
> Debugging.  Anyone who does both will inevitable spend the majority of
> time debugging.

I never spend more time to debug when I use Java.
Usually, I think, write program, re-read, compile, run, and in 80% of the 
cases it works without a single bug.
For the 20% cases where there is a bug, I generally spend less than 5 min to 
fix it.






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== 1 of 1 ==
Date:   Tues,   Nov 23 2004 5:48 pm
From: "Hal Rosser" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 

Most browsers will display GIF, JPG, and PNG.
I don't think tiff is supported, so it won't show in the browser.



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== 1 of 2 ==
Date:   Tues,   Nov 23 2004 5:54 pm
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Cindi Jenkins) 

> You might want to explain how anyone can "steal" the intellectual 
> property in a LGPL project - without breaking copyright law.

It is simple, all JBoss has to do is change the licensing for the next 
version...



== 2 of 2 ==
Date:   Tues,   Nov 23 2004 6:20 pm
From: Chris Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 

Cindi Jenkins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > You might want to explain how anyone can "steal" the intellectual 
> > property in a LGPL project - without breaking copyright law.
> 
> It is simple, all JBoss has to do is change the licensing for the
> next version...
> 

That depends very much on who owns the copyright for JBoss code.  I 
haven't contributed to the project, so I don't know whether they require 
a copyright transfer; if they don't, then there would be problems with 
changing the license.

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== 1 of 1 ==
Date:   Tues,   Nov 23 2004 6:42 pm
From: "Joe Kulig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 

I second that.

ArgoUML rocks!

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> "Brzezi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
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> > Hi.
> >
> > Could you recommend mi any program, which generates UML class diagrams
> from
> > suource files?
> >
> > I`v already written code of my classes, and I have to make class diagram
> for
> > it, I`v tried some programs, but noneone do this :/, for example argouml
> > reads sources, parses it and generates tree of class, I can move this
> > classes on diagram, but it is very provisional :/, I can`t accept this,
> > there aren`t any relations beetwen classes :/
> >
> > Could you help mi?
> > Thanks in advance.
>
> To create UML from java source files - try ArgoUML
> To create UML from scratch - try Poseidon
> To generate Java source from UML - try Poseidon.
> ====the combination of ArgoUML and Poseidon CE give your the round trip
> capabilities **free **
>
>
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date:   Tues,   Nov 23 2004 9:43 pm
From: Alexey Dmitriev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 

Hi, all..

How you think, in what problems it is necessary to use NIO?

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Alex



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