How many of you got an e-mail from Ray after you bought a kit or clock, telling you what happened? Or that you weren't getting what you paid for? He gladly took, and kept the money, and ran.
On Dec 5, 2012, at 9:35 AM, westdave <westd...@aol.com> wrote: ray you did do a ponzi scam you did try to cover your losses by running a two-fer sale of kits .i bet the money just poured in to buy two FLWC at a good price ,i fell for it , as you know I got nothing .. and i AM STILL HERE, I AM AROUND TO TALK TO ! if you were reachable to the USA you would have a class action law suit on you hands , so you have doged the bullet so far?poison pen ? i don't think so ,I hope you don't come sleezing around this fine group of fellows with all your blue jazz.and say,all of us ,other vendors never had your kind of BS -----Original Message----- From: neonixie-l <neonixie-l@googlegroups.com> To: Digest Recipients <neonixie-l@googlegroups.com> Sent: Tue, Dec 4, 2012 11:53 pm Subject: [neonixie-l] Digest for neonixie-l@googlegroups.com - 4 Messages in 2 Topics Today's Topic Summary Group: http://groups.google.com/group/neonixie-l/topics - GeekKlok and FLW up for grabs <#group_thread_0> [3 Updates] - Wanted - a quantity of faulty B7971s <#group_thread_1> [1 Update] GeekKlok and FLW up for grabs<http://groups.google.com/group/neonixie-l/t/cb16adf026590cf4> Raymond Weisling <zetalink....@gmail.com> Dec 04 07:09PM -0800 I feel it is only reasonable that I defend myself from the poison pens that gathered. The history is that my company went bankrupt, or was forced to close its doors. These nixie product were not al all the main business We did new product design engineering for a US-client that made health care signal systems and they were my client (before I formed a corporation) from 1990 to 1999, with one assistant working with me. In 1999 things with them were looking better and I had some money to invest in forming a limited liability corporation here in Indonesia. I then hired four engineers and we kept this client in California happy until 2005 or 2006. Then they were bought out by Tyco International, and for about a year we kept running but suddenly they gave us notice that they were moving everything and merging with Simplex Time Recorder in Massachusetts, where they already had 80+ engineers. My 4-man team meant nothing to their bottom line. At that point we began working with a local company that made traffic lights and took them on as a client. After about five months of work, they were unable to pay close to $5000 in invoices, and we had to stop. I had to take care of my staff during this time of promises from the other company, but when it was clear that they were unable to pay (they were cheated out of $40,000), my staff quit one by one, because I was forced to pay their salaries late. This is where the whole thing unraveled. Several times I tried to recover and eek out a living with the nixie products, but with too little capital to invest and sudden expenses from some health emergencies, we were in a spiral. Debts piled up. I'm paying interest of 30-40% oer year on some debts, which makes it very hard to climb out of a slimy hole. I'd love to pay everyone back and I never had any intention to cheat or defraud anyone ever. (Someone said hundreds of customers who didn't get products, but the total is probably about 50-70.) As for loss of sales data and no loss of engineering materials, the engineering materials were on two old Macintosh computers, one of which is still working at age 12. The sales stuff was in a PC Windows machine that got hit by lightning surge, in a different part of the house, quite removed from the other. We had the old Zetalink office in a separate garage, and that is where I put kits tohether, did assembly of units and packed orders for shipping. That's where both telephone and electric power lines entered the premises. The engineering files in my Mac were in a second floor bedroom converted to an office, quite separated, and protected with a good surge protector. (The adjoining room had some non-nixie things and that's the room where a whole wall collapsed in the May 2006 earthquake, more ton a ton of debris was all over the contents. That earthquake was only 5.9 magnitude, but killed about 6000 people (on my own Dwelling Unpreparedness Index (DUI) it was the third worst worldwide earthquake since 1945). I just want to see that these products continue on and can help pay off some of my local debts where interest is so high. A hospital project coming up may provide enough funds for refunds to people, but the banking details for it have been delayed for six months or more. I just don't want to cheat anyone, never did intentionally, and certainly have no interest in doing it again. Bad Karma. I hope that the bitter people can release their poison. They harbor ill feelings, so they live with that poison. Learn to forgive, very powerful medicine. I am very sorry for injuring so many through the mess I went through. Very Best Wishes....Ray -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "neonixie-l" group. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. 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