On May 23, 2009, at 5:38 AM, Matt Walsh wrote:
I am potentially exposing my ignorance here, but when I am mixing and
applying processing to the two mix (compression, EQ, ring modulator,
etc.) I usually patch the device in between the two mix output and the
2-track and monitor off the returns from the the mixdown deck. Is
there a better way to do this? I don't see how I can insert something
via the patchbay and just listen through it without having to monitor
off the 2-track.

So if there is a way to do this and I am just being boneheaded, by all
means speak up! If not, is there a spot to pull off the card and bring
to the patchbay? I more often than not EQ the 2-mix so it'd be very
helpful to me.


On the SII, there is no insert on the 2mix bus, or any other bus for that matter. Your method makes a lot of sense; take the 2mix, process it, then send it to the 2 track and monitor the 2 track via the 2 track monitor button in the master section.

My signal flow memory of the SII is a bit rusty, but you might be able to do the same thing by sending your tracks, with their 'mixdown' buttons not engaged, to buses 1-2 for example, and then patching the bus 1-2 outputs back to a pair of channels that are routed to the 2mix bus. You could then insert whatever hardware effects in the patch from the bus 1-2 outs and the pair of channel inputs that are routed to the 2mix. I guess you'd have to use the tiny pan pot, and not the big one near the channel fader, but that's not a biggie.

The only advantage there is that your processed mix appears on the 2mix outs, so it goes to 2tracks 1-4, and your meters follow the processed mix as normal.

The other option is to add an unbalanced patch point to the 2mix bus by doing some razor blade work to the PCB foil of the 2mix module. I'd put it after the bus summing stage (the 5534 stage) but before the send to the 2mix fader. Then, you could mix normally, and have an unbalanced insert point for your processing.

The bad part is that you've added a length of cable that every signal you're mixing must go through... from the bus summing amp out to the patchbay, and then back to the 2mix fader through the patchpoint normal contacts. Yeah, not a huge degradation, but that's the tradeoff.


Best of luck!

Monte McGuire
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