The 8 wires running across the back of the LED meters are the ribbon
cable for that supplies power and bussing (common signals to all meters,
GND, Pk/VU buss, power supply voltages etc). If you can see that, you
should be able to see the ceramic caps, if present, they are usually
just above or below the 8 pin connector on the meter card (someone more
familiar with the older meter cards could chime in here, I'm more
familiar with 22 and 40 segment cards from the Elite /Elan).
Cory, the power supply puts out multiple voltages, so it is possible
that just the 36 volt meter output is not working. The surge protector
does not affect this.
The Monitor select switches decide what signal goes to the VU
meters. The Pk / VU switch selects the response of the LED meters (ie.
whether they are showing Peak or Average levels).
What part of the world are you located in? Maybe there is someone
nearby that can help you with this.
best,
Ike
[email protected] wrote:
Hey-
Some more info....It is definitely a Series 1, possibly a Series 1E.
The board is 16 ins, and 8 buss's. There are 8 LED meters, so I
suspect it is for the 8 bus outs. Also, there are two more LED meters
directly in the center of the board, in between the two needle meters
,(what is the proper term for those kinds?) which I am assuming is for
the main stereo out channel. The power supply is a PS-05.
My observations:
The LED meters were working.
The needle meters were and continue to work.
The signal is succesfully reaching the board and travelling through
the buss's into the presonus.
Questions I still have:
There is a group above the stereo fader called "Meter Selects."
Included in the Meter Selects group are 4 push buttons- Extra, Echo,
Foldback, and Moniter. Right below those options is another button. It
is a Peak/Vu button, peak when it is out, vu when pressed in. I am
thinking this has to be close to the culprit....maybe? I can't seem to
understand how it could be a power supply issue if everything else
seems to be working perfectly. I looked in the back, though I couldn't
get in enough to find any ceramic capacitors.....I will check that
tomorrow. Everything seemed to be sturdy, for lack of a better word.
All the wiring/connections seemed solid. On the rear of the console,
behind the meters were the individual cards(I believe is the term) and
there was a inside of a computer looking type cable connecting each,
and the cable had 8 gaps, so there were 8 individual wires running
through it. It all seemed to be connected well, so I don't think there
is a bad connection. I have the power supply runnning into a surge
protector, whereas I had it running directly into the wall before.
Could the SP be reducing the amount of voltage the board is receiving??
I can get a picture hopefully tomorrow. Also, I do have the
schematics, but I cannot read them. Another thing I have to get on.
Thanks everyone for your patience.
Colby
-----Original Message-----
From: Ike Zimbel <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Mon, Jan 4, 2010 2:40 pm
Subject: Re: NEOTEK: neotek series 1 beginner help
Yes, all good points, Jared.
Colby, if none of the LED meters work, it could be a power supply
issue. Also, have a careful look at the backs of the meter cards and
see if you can spot any burnt up ceramic capacitors (green or
brown/tan discs about the size of a penny). If you see one or more,
they are probably shorting out the 36 volt power supply rail. These
must be removed before you fix the meter supply. BTW, before you go
poking around in the power supply, THERE ARE DANGEROUS, POTENTIALLY
DEADLY VOLTAGES IN THERE. If you don't have any experience with that
kind of work, GET HELP from someone who does.
best,
Ike
Jared wrote:
> Hi Colby
>
> What are the meters for? the input strips? the sub outs? or the
master > outs? or who knows what else. Each neotek is different. From
your > description it sounds like the meters are on the inputs. If
that is > the case that should have nothing to do with the Aux sends
A,B,C,D > that you are referring to. Do you have schemamtics for this
console? > Or pictures? a little more infromation would be helpfull.
Such as how > many LED meters, and what they are monitoring. Are any
of them working > at all? If none are work maybe it is an issue with
the power supply. > Which whould beg the question which power supply
do you have?
>
> let us know more and maybe we can help.
> Jared
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
> Sent: Jan 4, 2010 12:08 PM
> To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: NEOTEK: neotek series 1 beginner help
>
> Hey Ike,
> Alright. The board came from an audio/visual dept. from a
> university. All the paperwork that came with it claim it is a
> neotek series 1 console, though I have seen pictures online that
> look different. I got the punchdown tool and hardwired the adc
> panel on the back, channels 1-8. The board has a total of 16 ins,
> but only 8 subs out. The 8 subs out I have hardwired out, going to
> a presonus interface. The meters were working, but stopped. I am
> being honest when I say it might have to do with the fact that I
> don't understand everything on the board. The manual is kind of
> tough to understand, so I am leading myself to believe it has to
> do with the A,B,C,D pots/knobs, since I don't really understand
> them. The A.B.C.D pots are on each individual channel strip, and
> there is also A,B,C,D pots that say foldback and echo. Also, the
> other section of the board that doesn't seem to be making sense is
> the playback area with push-in buttons like foldback, vu, moniter,
> and another I forget. My conclusion is that the LED VU meters are
> not working because of the way the ABCD pots and that playback
> buttons are configured. Does that sound like I am on the right
> direction?? The sound does travel to and from the board. The
> center needle meters work. Long story short, the sound is reaching
> the board and the signal flow is making it to the presonus. I
> need, obviously, to get these led meters working so I can see the
> signal strength of each individual channel. Also, are those LED
> meters detecting the signal strength coming in or going out of the
> board? The reason I ask is because it seemed to start working when
> I wired the subs out....I have the subs individually going out to
> the presonus, instead of going out from the master. Well Ike, I
> hope that is enough. I am not in front of the board, so I hope I
> got it right. I am going to get this solved, so if you need more
> information, I will gladly supply it. Thanks,Colby
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ike Zimbel <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>>
> To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
> Sent: Mon, Jan 4, 2010 12:55 pm
> Subject: Re: NEOTEK: neotek series 1 beginner help
>
> Hi Colby, > I the reason that no one responded to this post is that you
> haven't really supplied enough information for anybody to take a
> stab at it. Please let us know more about your console and the
> configuration of your set-up...and the symptoms of the problem.
> Like are you getting audio through but just not seeing the meters,
> etc. > best, > Ike > > [email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]> <mailto:[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]?>> wrote: > > Hello, > > > My name is
Colby. I am the new owner of a Neotek series 1
> console. It > belonged to an electronic media department of a
> college, but they got > rid of it and I was at the right place at
> the right time. Well, it is > working and I was hoping if someone
> out there was well versed on this > board, if you might be able to
> guide me along. I have already gotten > the punchdown tool and
> wired the outs to a presonus interface. > Tomorrow, I will wire
> the inputs. Right now, I am wondering why the > LED's on the front
> panel, which monitor the peak/vu, why they are not > lighting up.
> The VU meter does work, but not the LED's. Also, does > anyone
> have a preference as for the configuration of volumes.....aka, >
> should I have the gain up or down, the channel fader up or down,
> the > sub up or down, and the master up or down? What
> configuration would > give the best sound, strong signal, etc?
> Basically, anyone got any > good tips out there? This is my first
> post, so I hope this is going > out to someone. Thanks, > > Colby >
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