You guys are awesome. The "button pushing" suggestion worked on all 3
channels that were passing only high end. The bad news is there's
still one channel that's not working at all. Is it time to pull it?
I'd like to get a schematic if I can. I'd be glad to pay someone for
a copy. I'm off to work so I'll check back.

Thanks again,
Dave

---- Original Message ----
From: [email protected]
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: NEOTEK:  Problem With Some Channels
Date: Wed, 08 Sep 2010 15:13:52 -0400

>
>  Hi David,
>     The P&G's and the Selmarks are very repairable. The most likely 
>explanation for the problem you are seeing is a nice fur ball built
>up 
>under the wipers, so a shot of air or a cautious dis-assembly should
>do 
>it. The next most likely is that the ground lead (black) isn't making
>
>contact through the Molex header.
>iz
>
>On 9/7/2010 11:37 PM, [email protected] wrote:
>> It's a Penny&  Giles. Most of the faders are P&G, but I did see a
>few
>> Sellmark. I'll pick up a can of canned air. I imagine all the
>faders
>> could probably use a shot.
>>
>> ---- Original Message ----
>> From: [email protected]
>> To: [email protected]
>> Subject: Re: NEOTEK:  Problem With Some Channels
>> Date: Tue, 07 Sep 2010 22:12:31 -0400
>>
>>>   Can you tell me what kind it is, or send a pic and I'll tell
>you?
>>> In
>>> any case, a good shot of canned air is always a good place to
>start
>>> with
>>> a fader.
>>> iz
>>>
>>> On 9/7/2010 10:08 PM, [email protected] wrote:
>>>> Thanks again Ike. I tried swapping faders around and the bad one
>>>> still did the same thing no matter which channel I popped it in,
>so
>>> I
>>>> assume the fader itself is malfunctioning. Are they fixable, or
>is
>>> it
>>>> a case of when they go, they go?
>>>>
>>>> ---- Original Message ----
>>>> From: [email protected]
>>>> To: [email protected]
>>>> Subject: Re: NEOTEK:  Problem With Some Channels
>>>> Date: Tue, 7 Sep 2010 21:28:28 -0400
>>>>
>>>>> They pull up from the top, but there's a WAY longer explanation
>>> than
>>>>> that needed before you can do it without mangling some of the
>>>>> connectors.
>>>>>          In the short term, however, you can actually pull the
>>> modules
>>>>> up and inspect them without disconnecting them. Just BE SURE the
>>>>> power
>>>>> supply is OFF as they can and do short against the adjacent
>module
>>> on
>>>>> the way in and out.
>>>>>         Check the 3-pin Molex header for the fader on the one
>with
>>> the
>>>>> fader problem. It's the .156 (ie: larger) connector near the
>fader
>>>>> end
>>>>> of the module.
>>>>>
>>>>> Ike Zimbel
>>>>> Zimbel Audio Ltd
>>>>> 416-720-0887
>>>>> www.zimbelaudio.com
>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>
>>>>> On 2010-09-07, at 6:20 PM, [email protected] wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks guys. I'll try the button pushing. If I have to
>eventually
>>>>>> remove the strips, does the whole thing just pop out from the
>top
>>>>> or
>>>>>> do I need to disconnect anything first from underneath?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ---- Original Message ----
>>>>>> From: [email protected]
>>>>>> To: [email protected]
>>>>>> Subject: Re: NEOTEK:  Problem With Some Channels
>>>>>> Date: Tue, 07 Sep 2010 19:33:47 +0100
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi
>>>>>>> A SSL4000 channel strip has about 23 switches involved in the
>>> path
>>>>>>> from
>>>>>>> mic in to the stereo bus. ALL of them have to be pristine for
>>>>> decent
>>>>>>> quality and reliable signal. The main 'downer' on those desks
>is
>>>>> that
>>>>>>> many of the switches are involved in things like 'EQ to
>dynamics
>>>>>>> sidechain' stuff you hardly ever use but ALL must be exercised
>>>>>>> regularly. The relative simplicity of the Neoteks have a
>certain
>>>>>>> attraction at this point!
>>>>>>> Happy button pressing.
>>>>>>> Matt S
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Ike Zimbel wrote:
>>>>>>>> Hi David,
>>>>>>>>      For starters, try "exercising" all of the switches on
>each
>>>>>>>> channel. Just because a switch is "off" or dis-engaged,
>doesn't
>>>>>>> mean
>>>>>>>> it is out-of-circuit. In fact, the signal flows through the
>>>>> switch
>>>>>>>> anyway, just through the contacts that are used in the "up"
>>>>>>> position.
>>>>>>>> Beware the switch you never use!
>>>>>>>> best,
>>>>>>>> ike
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 9/6/2010 1:18 PM, [email protected] wrote:
>>>>>>>>> So I've gotten to the point where I'm checking out each of
>the
>>>>> 40
>>>>>>>>> channels in my Elite. I've got 3 channels that are passing
>>> only
>>>>>>> high
>>>>>>>>> end signal. All channel strip functions are off, so it's got
>>>>>>> nothing
>>>>>>>>> to do with the EQ. Any ideas or suggestions? I've never
>pulled
>>> a
>>>>>>>>> channel strip out of this console yet. Is there anything I
>>>>> should
>>>>>>>>> watch out for when pulling it? I also have one fader that
>>>>> doesn't
>>>>>>>>> gradually increase in volume. It starts with silence then
>>>>>>> immediately
>>>>>>>>> comes on at volume through the range of the fader. Is this a
>>>>>>> fixable
>>>>>>>>> problem or is the fader shot?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> thanks,
>>>>>>>>> Dave
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>Toronto
>416-720-0887
>
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