I received a couple UTC A20's and should have my Edcor's in tomorrow. I should 
have the chassis made and wired by late weekend. I am very curious to hear the 
differences and see if they are very noticable. Regardless, it will be a fun 
project.
 
Tom

--- On Wed, 3/16/11, Brian Roth <[email protected]> wrote:


From: Brian Roth <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: NEOTEK: Adding Transformers
To: [email protected]
Date: Wednesday, March 16, 2011, 10:11 PM


On 3/16/2011 13:02, Ike Zimbel wrote:
> 
> Hi Brian,
> I'm pretty sure you published those specs on the Ampex list...check the
> archive!
> All the best,
> Ike


Dear Ike,

I forgot I had posted some measurements on the Ampex list!  I found the 
following from the Jan, 2005 archives, which I believe were measurements of the 
"smaller" series of Edcors:

http://www.edcorusa.com/products/143-wsm600-600.aspx

Here is what I wrote 6 (!) years ago:

The replacement Edcors (600:600 impedance versions) arrived today, and the DCR 
was MUCH more reasonable.  Approx. 54.1 Ohms primary, 54.5 secondary.  Level 
drop from open loading on secondary to 600 Ohms was just a bit under 1.5 dB, 
much what I would expect.

For testing, I breadboarded a "zero Ohm source" driver with a 5534 opamp 
running as an inverter: 10K input and feedback R's, 22 pF compensation cap 
(between pins 5 and 8) and 22 pF in parallel
with the  feedback R to tame any overshoot and ringing from the opamp itself.  
-3 dB response with the opamp circuit calcs to around 723 kHz.  I powered the 
5534 with +/- 20 VDC from my bench
supply, which allowed just over approx + 24 dBu/m at clipping.

1 and 10 kHz squarewave response through the iron looked very good, loaded or 
unloaded, with just a tiny bit of overshoot and ringing. Frequency response was 
beyond anything I could measure with my
Amber (bandlimited at around 500 kHz or so) which came up with -1 dB at approx 
6 Hz and 300 kHz. Bypassing the Amber and just watching the scope, usuable 
response was extended, and limited by the
rolloff of the opamp driver on the top end.  With a 50 Hz square wave, there 
was very little tilt which indicates LF response well below 20 Hz.

Next I measured THD, and at some of the lower levels I was fighting noise 
picked up from the breadboarding!  Here are various "spot measurements".

1 kHz, 0 dBm = 0.0085%   +10 dBm = 0.005%  +20 dBm = 0.0025%  (noise was an 
obvious factor!)

100 Hz, 0 dBm = 0.03%   +10 dBm = 0.015%  + 20 dBm = 0.05%  **

50 Hz, 0 dBm =  0.055%   +10 dBm = 0.035%  +20 dBm = 0.18%  **

20 Hz, 0 dBm = 0.07%   +10 dBm = 0.085%  + 20 dBm = 0.7%

Spot checks at LF and + 20 dBm:  40 Hz = 0.3%  30 Hz = 0.45%

(Actual 20 Hz numbers may be a bit lower since my 20+ year old Amber was having 
a hard time nulling at 20 Hz).

**  Notice the THD dip at the "middle" levels at those frequencies.  I also 
think I detected a THD rise at levels below 0 dBm but was fighting noise issues.

I have a bunch of other numbers, but you get the drift.  Looking at Jensen 
choices, this Edcor is just a bit "rattier" than a JT-11-EMCF which sells for 
$66.85.  These Edcors are a bargain!!

Bri



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