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Message: 3
Date: Fri, 15 Sep 2006 10:23:44 -0400
From: "Joel Elwell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Nessus 3.0.3 scan abends Btcpcom.nlm
To: <[email protected]>
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After updating (uninstall old, clean install new) from Nessus 2.6 to 3.0.3, our 
recent scan caused multiple abends on our NetWare 6.5 servers.
It effected about 50% of the servers scanned. 

Abend was: EIP in LIBC.NLM at code start +0008BB95h
Running process: BTCPCOM.NLM     6 Process
Thread Owned by NLM: BTCPCOM.NLM

Safe checks were enabled and port scanning was enabled.

This approach worked ok with (no NetWare abends) using our previous version of 
Nessus.

I did read a Novell TID from 2003 (2966492) concerning a field fix for Nessus 
port scanning causing an abend with Btcpcom.nlm, but all our servers have the 
same date and version recommended by the TID. 

Servers are a mix of NetWare service pack level, SP2, SP3, SP5. We are working 
to get all to SP5. It was about a 50-50 mix of effected servers in relation to 
the service pack level.

I have yet to find any pattern to pursue, other than the obvious info from the 
abend logs. Does anyone have similar experience or any insight?

Thanks



Joel Elwell
Network Security Engineer
Corporate Email Administrator
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 

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Message: 4
Date: Fri, 15 Sep 2006 16:57:12 +0200
From: Michel Arboi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Nessus 3.0.3 scan abends Btcpcom.nlm
To: "Joel Elwell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: [email protected] 
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On Fri Sep 15 2006 at 16:23, Joel Elwell wrote:

> After updating (uninstall old, clean install new) from Nessus 2.6

I suppose that you mean 2.2.6. And that you are using nessus_tcp_scanner.

> Safe checks were enabled and port scanning was enabled.

Which was the value of max_checks ("Number of checks to perform at the
same time")?

> This approach worked ok with (no NetWare abends) using our previous
> version of Nessus. 

There have been several modifications in nessus_tcp_scanner since 2.2.6. 
The most noticeable one is an improvement of scan time against
machines which implement RST rate limitation (mainly BSD). If Netware
uses such a trick, Nessus 2.2.8 or 3+ will be much more aggressive
against it. If not, the behaviour should be unchanged and maybe you'll
have to check your parameters (you may have changed some of them when
you switched from 2.x to 3.x)

> I have yet to find any pattern to pursue

Concerning Netware itself, I cannot help you. You are not the first
one to report such problems.
Meanwhile, you could try to reduce max_checks or even switch to Nessus
SYN scanner instead of the TCP scanner.

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Message: 5
Date: Fri, 15 Sep 2006 11:49:13 -0400
From: "Joel Elwell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Nessus 3.0.3 scan abends Btcpcom.nlm
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: [email protected] 
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Thanks for your response,
You are correct, our previous version was 2.2.6, and we are indeed using 
nessus_tcp_scanner.
Max_check is set for 5.
Since I have inherited the scanning from a former co-worker, I may easily have 
different settings than prevous. (I did attempt to keep as many the same as 
possible.)
I'll look into the possiblity of Netware using a type of RST rate limitation, I 
am uncertain at this time.
I can apreciate your comment about Netware. I should be able to setup a test 
using your suggestion about reducing max_checks or switching to Nessus SYN 
scanner instead of the TCP scanner.

Thanks,
                Joel

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As a follow up to my post, by process of elimination I was able to determine 
the plugin that apparently abended
many of our Novell servers during the first Nessus 3.0.3 scan.

SAP DB/MaxDB Detection
Nessus ID # 11929
CVE: NOCVE (N/A)
Bugtraq ID: NOBID (N/A)

I ran a scan (with Syn port scan) with only this plugin enabled. The result was 
the abend I posted previously.
To confirm, I ran another scan with all plugins enabled, except that one, and 
the scan completed without abending the Novell server.

This was tested on only one server but I will be testing at least 2 others. 
I''l post the results.






Joel Elwell
Network Security Engineer
Home Properties, Inc.


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