Thank you, Ferdy.

I found the CTX111186 notice too, but I don't believe that's what is
causing it (though our Microsoft/Citrix team will be applying the
patch).

Turns out our backup servers, which run ArcServe 11.5 SP2, are also
crashing during the scans. In both cases (Citrix, ArcServe), the server
itself doesn't crash, but just one or two critical services stop.

But I think Renaud is going to end up being correct (as usual) about the
cause. After some investigation, I found that 'thorough tests' was
turned on the month before the problems started occurring.

John

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ferdy Riphagen
Sent: Monday, December 11, 2006 11:15 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: NESSUS CRASHING CITRIX METAFRAME SERVERS

John Scherff wrote:
>
> *Tenable/List*,
>
>  
>
> Starting last month, Nessus began crashing our Citrix Metaframe farm 
> (approximately 60 servers).  _The same scan ran every month without 
> incident for over a year_ prior to November.  It may be the case that 
> the scan did not bring down all the servers, but brought down certain 
> services that are critical to Metaframe functionality.  Here's a quote

> from the Citrix administrator:
>
>  
>
> It seems that somehow the scan causes the IMA (Independent Management 
> Architecture) service to stop on almost all the MF servers. There were

> only 5 that did not have the IMA service stopped. Of course, when that

> happens, they are dead to the ZDC (Zone Data Collector) which reports 
> them as Server Down. The IMA service is critical to the communication 
> between the MF servers and the ZDC.
>
You should grab any logfile or debug file from the scanner and the 
Citrix servers to correlate things between each other (timestamps a
crucial)
It's  is always possible that a service drops down, with any type of 
scan you do.

Maybe you could also look at the patch levels of these servers. I know 
there was a bug reported a month ago in the IMA architecture. It's very 
unlikely this is the problem, because no "not that I know" script is 
testing for it. It is even unclear "to me" what the attack vector is for

this bug...
http://support.citrix.com/article/CTX111186

I'll think Citrix would also want to know why there IMA drops down.....

--Ferdy--


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