Dave,

    I'd have to disagree with this.  sysUptime is going to the amount of
time the entire system was up not a just a single port.  LastChange should
by defination be the system time that the port's state was last changed. 

    For instance I have a Cisco switch that has been running for 9 months,
14 days, 6 hours and 27 minutes. sysUptime reflects this. I added a new
server to my network last week and it's associated port went from Up/down to
Up/Up  the LastChange time reflects that as well.

Regards,
Pete
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Sent: Friday, June 24, 2005 07:13
To: Jeetendra Singh
Cc: [email protected]
Subject: Re: SNMP newbie question: sysUpTime

On Fri, 2005-06-24 at 11:55, Jeetendra Singh wrote:

> Consider that my agentX master agent is running for *days*. The 
> sysUpTime accordingly goes into days. I *now* enable my device's port 
> and the device-up trap is sent by my subagent to the manager via 
> master agent.
> 1. What should be the value of "*LastChange" in this case? 

The value of 'sysUpTime' at the time that you enabled the interface.
Just as it says in the definition of the LastChange object.

> 2. If sysUpTime is agent's time (and in net-snmp it is filled by 
> master agent), it will be in days in my trap.

Correct.

>  "*LastChange" as per its definition will be 
>     -    this sysUpTime value(which is in days) OR
>     -    the uptime of my device's port (which is a few seconds)?

The sysUpTime value (in days) - just as it says in the MIB definition.


> My master agent is running for days but my application (containing the
> subagent) which is currently being tested gets killed and restarted 
> every now and then. I have observed a very strange reading. My 
> sysUpTime and *LastChange parameters display same values of timeticks 
> in all my traps. How can this be possible? Pls note, my master agent 
> and subagent are two separate processes.

But they combine to supply the "network management portion" of the system.
So the network management portion *as a whole*, has been running for several
days, even if selected bits of it haven't been active all of the time.


>  As per me, this can only happen if after coming up, the subagent is 
> asking for the master agents uptime/start-time?

Correct.
See the AgentX specification for details.

>  what purpose does *LastChange really solves? 

It allows the manager to know when that particular interface was last taken
up or down (or whatever the LastChange object actually monitors).


> Or is it that if the manager wants to know the uptime of my managed 
> resource, the *LastChange is *not* the right parameter?

No - the LastChange object is *not* the right parameter for telling how long
the management system as a whole has been running.  That's what sysUpTime is
for.

Neither is it necessarily the right parameter for telling how long a
particular subsystem has been running.  There would typically be other MIB
objects for that, such as the two 'agentx*OpenTime" objects in the
AGENTX-MIB (which we don't actually implement!)

The LastChange object reports when a particular aspect of a particular
subsystem was last *changed*.  That's not the same as how long it's been
running - it's quite possible to make changes to a running subsystem without
taking it down.


sysUpTime monitors the uptime of the system.
*LastChange monitors when changes are made to a particular subsystem.
They both do exactly what it says on the tin.


Dave



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