Hi,

by SNMP agent I mean a piece of software running on network device
which replies to SNMP GET, GETNEXT and GETBULK requests sent from NMS.


Martin

On 7/9/15, Jurkiewicz Jean-Marc <jean-marc.jurkiew...@manor.ch> wrote:
> Hi Martin
>
> 1) What do you understand by SNMP agent ? Do you mean the management station
> ?
>
> 2) To answer your question :
>
> Please have a look to :
> http://jmjmon.eu/LaSupervisionDeReseau/SNMP_Mon-V010.pdf page 14+
>
> RFCs and IAB Status are the answer to your question
>
> If you talk about private MIBs, than the answer to your question is "it
> depends..."
>
> -----------------------------------------------------------------------------
> La RFC 1156 défini les groupes suivants :
>
>      System
>      Interfaces
>      Address Translation
>      IP
>      ICMP
>      TCP
>      UDP
>      EGP
>
> Ainsi que la méthode d’implémentation suivante : « Si la sémantique d’un
> groupe s’applique à une implémentation, alors elle doit implémenter tous les
> objets de ce groupe».
>
> En d’autres termes, toutes les branches ne sont pas explorables : Le groupe
> EGP ne doit être implémenté que si le protocole EGP est implémenté. (Cela
> n’a aucun sens de chercher [de fournir] des informations sur quelque chose
> qui n’existe pas).
>
> --------------------------------------
>
> This means for instance that " The Group EGP has not to be implemented if
> the EGP protocol is not implemented".. It make no sense to request ( per
> SNMP) information about something that in not implemented.
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Message d'origine-----
> De : Martin T [mailto:m4rtn...@gmail.com]
> Envoyé : jeudi, 9. juillet 2015 11:08
> À : stua...@alleninstitute.org
> Cc : net-snmp-users@lists.sourceforge.net
> Objet : Re: correlation of MIB files and MIB support on SNMP agents
>
> One more question- how properly vendors usually keep the MIB files and MIB
> support on SNMP agent in correlation? I mean are there sometimes features
> listed in MIB files which actually are not present in device SNMP agent and
> the other way around?
>
>
> thanks,
> Martin
>
> On 7/9/15, Martin T <m4rtn...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Thanks for excellent answer!
>>
>>
>> Martin
>>
>> On 7/8/15, Stuart Kendrick <stua...@alleninstitute.org> wrote:
>>> Yes, I understand the relationship between SNMP agents & MIB files in
>>> the way you and DPS describe below.
>>>
>>> Rephrasing using my words:
>>>
>>> - Manufacturer decides to support, say, monitoring fan state.  Let's
>>> take Cisco as an example
>>>
>>> - Cisco writes the CISCO-ENVMON-MIB file, including an Object Value
>>> which returns the state of a given fan:
>>>
>>> ciscoEnvMonFanState OBJECT-TYPE
>>>         SYNTAX     CiscoEnvMonState
>>>         MAX-ACCESS read-only
>>>         STATUS     current
>>>         DESCRIPTION
>>>                 "The current state of the fan being instrumented."
>>>         ::= { ciscoEnvMonFanStatusEntry 3 }
>>>
>>> - Developers use the definitions in that MIB file to write code.  I
>>> suspect that implementations vary widely -- one possible way to do
>>> this:
>>> (1) In the Cisco IOS, include support for talking to the hardware in
>>> order to report on fan state
>>> (2) In the Cisco CLI, include support for some sort of 'show fan state'
>>> command
>>> (3) In the Cisco SNMP agent, include support for querying fan state
>>>
>>> - Voila:  an operating system which supports reporting on fan state
>>> from both the CLI and the SNMP agent.
>>>
>>> --sk
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Martin T [mailto:m4rtn...@gmail.com]
>>> Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2015 8:30 AM
>>> To: net-snmp-users@lists.sourceforge.net
>>> Subject: correlation of MIB files and MIB support on SNMP agents
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I read a product pamphlet from DPS Telecom where they had following
>>> Q&A
>>> section:
>>>
>>> -----
>>> Q: I want to use a device feature that isn’t described in the MIB.
>>> What can I do?
>>>
>>> A: You can ask the vendor to extend the MIB to include this feature.
>>> DPS Telecom has extended its MIB to support client needs. But you
>>> need to understand that extending a MIB is actually a software
>>> development project.
>>> The MIB is not just a text file. It’s also a software interface
>>> document to the embedded firmware of your SNMP device.
>>> Making additions to the MIB requires rewriting the device firmware.
>>> This is a serious project, involving writing code, debugging it, and
>>> undergoing a thorough quality assurance process.
>>> -----
>>>
>>> So am I correct that vendors like Cisco or Juniper develop their MIB
>>> files which are downloadable from their web-sites tightly with their
>>> MIB support on SNMP agents? In other words MIB files and MIB support
>>> on SNMP agents is closely correlated?
>>>
>>>
>>> thanks,
>>> Martin
>>>
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