Just found it on YouTube, great! Thanks, Alan
On Mon, Dec 7, 2020 at 11:33 AM Alan Sondheim <sondh...@gmail.com> wrote: > I've never seen that! from the description it reminds me of a section of > the video Acker and I did, writing on the tv monitor screen which occluded > our words and sense of communication - some of my early computer work > (presented through printer or on a monitor screen in the 70s) involved > editors that interfered with the text the user was writing, creating a > situation that constantly needed and thwarted correction. The Serra/Holt > piece sounds amazing; it didn't seem available on the MOMA site - > > Best, Alan thank you! > > On Mon, Dec 7, 2020 at 11:13 AM Annie Abrahams <bram....@gmail.com> wrote: > >> inspiring video Alan!!!!!! >> >> I was just talking before with Daniel about "boomerang" by Serra and Holt >> >> thanks >> Annie >> >> >> On Mon, Dec 7, 2020 at 4:55 PM Alan Sondheim via NetBehaviour < >> netbehaviour@lists.netbehaviour.org> wrote: >> >>> Thank you so much! I've been trying to write like this for a while, a >>> dialog with dictation and dictation's errors and where they lead/live - as >>> a way of 'doing' theory. >>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WFxQ5uS92Rc was working with a similar >>> approach (no bots here, just dictations) in real time and interlocked >>> programs. >>> >>> Best, Alan >>> >>> On Mon, Dec 7, 2020 at 7:00 AM Johannes Birringer via NetBehaviour < >>> netbehaviour@lists.netbehaviour.org> wrote: >>> >>>> dear Alan >>>> >>>> your "next theoretical installment" yesterday was a wonderful start >>>> into the Klaus day; >>>> probably the most humorous and scrupulous text & reflection on doing >>>> things (such as writing) & >>>> on not answering to yourself or others, you've shared with us in a >>>> while, I enjoyed it much >>>> regards >>>> Johannes Birringer >>>> >>>> ________________________________________ >>>> From: NetBehaviour <netbehaviour-boun...@lists.netbehaviour.org> on >>>> behalf of Alan Sondheim <sondh...@panix.com> >>>> Sent: 06 December 2020 06:06 >>>> To: NetBehaviour for networked distributed creativity >>>> Subject: [NetBehaviour] 12:43 AM next theoretical installment: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> 12:43 AM next theoretical installment: >>>> >>>> http://www.alansondheim.org/ohtheory.jpg >>>> >>>> So I immediately came into the back room and decided that I would >>>> dictate as usual we're not as usual what this piece is going to be >>>> which was a kind of theoretical demonstration and reply to someone >>>> who thought what I was usually doing is poetry. I never think of >>>> my work or almost never think of my work as poetry. Unless it is >>>> rhymed. It seems to me that it's a way of doing philosophy and >>>> Theory without having to call on the minions of references that >>>> appear in ordinary theoretical discourse. I am answering to no >>>> one. I'm not even answering to myself. I am not questioning anyone >>>> else or critiquing anyone else. I am critiquing or questioning >>>> only my help. It is a way of proceeding with an inner dialogue >>>> that obviously references in my own mind the reading or work that >>>> I am doing in terms of more traditional Philosophy. For example >>>> now I have been looking at Saint Anselm has logic. I've been >>>> looking and thinking a little bit about Whitehead. I've been >>>> thinking and looking at the talmud. These are just older antique >>>> references but they form a kind of constellation that I can >>>> proceed from. I'm also thinking about electrical circuits and the >>>> way that circuits and their notes add up to in various ways in >>>> various configurations various numbers of branches. There's always >>>> an electrical connection. What we do is based on electrical >>>> connections. From one end of a wire to another there are things >>>> going on internally that are fairly well understood but the >>>> information that might be carried by this things might not be that >>>> well understood. There is also a grounding a cable that is dropped >>>> from the circuit that can drain it almost immediately. All >>>> information is lost. This is what's called the fragility of good >>>> things. It's something that appeared as a phrase in catastrophe >>>> Theory. Catastrophe theory. In particular a book by Arnold that >>>> used it as a way of indicating that whatever goes on properly is >>>> only a minuscule microscopic or less amount of what can >>>> conceivably go on. Popularly more things can go wrong as I can go >>>> right. To go right is a knife-edge no matter how right is defined. >>>> So this was not the topic of what I came back here to think about >>>> and to write to you about. Back here or means back into another >>>> room where I have Solace and quietude and the ability to think >>>> through these dialogues. Which are monologues. Although they may >>>> not seem as monologues. When I came back here to dictate the >>>> dialogue or the monologue however I found that what had happened >>>> was as a result of fatigue and exhaustion and anxiety and >>>> depression and a Wandering mind was I forgot the topic I had >>>> initially intended to discuss. I still no longer remember the >>>> topic. I don't remember a single bit of what I was going to talk >>>> about. So that philosophy that philosophical direction is lost and >>>> replated replaced that's that. That's single philosophical >>>> direction is lost and replaced by this enormous influence of wrong >>>> directions. Sorry immediately came into the back room and decided >>>> that I would dictate as usual or not as usual what this piece is >>>> going to be which was it kind of theoretical demonstration And >>>> reply to someone who thought what I was usually doing is poetry. I >>>> never think of my work or almost never think of my work as poetry. >>>> Unless it is rhyme. It seems to me that it's a way of doing >>>> philosophy and theory without having to call on the minions of >>>> references that appear in ordinary theoretical discourse. I am >>>> answering to no one. I am not even answering to myself. I am not >>>> questioning anyone else or critique in anyone else. I am >>>> critiquing or questioning only myself. It is a way of proceeding >>>> with an inner dialogue that obviously references in my own mind >>>> the reading or works that I am doing in terms of more traditional >>>> philosophy. For example now I have been looking at Saint and Selms >>>> logic. I've been looking and thinking a little bit about >>>> Whitehead. I've been thinking and looking at the Talmud. These are >>>> just older antique references but they form a kind of >>>> constellation that I can proceed from. I'm also thinking about >>>> electrical circuits and the way that circuits and their nodes add >>>> up to in various ways in various configurations to it various >>>> numbers of branchings. There's always an electrical connection. >>>> What we do is based on electrical connections. From one end of a >>>> wire to another there are things going on internally that are >>>> fairly well understood but the information that might be carried >>>> by this things might not be that will understood. There is also a >>>> grounding a cable that is dropped from the circuit that can drain >>>> it almost immediately. All information is lost. This is what's >>>> called the fragility of good things. It's something that appeared >>>> as a phrase in catastrophe theory. Catastrophe theory. In >>>> particular book by Arnold that used it as a way of indicating that >>>> whatever goes on properly is only a miniscule microscopic or less >>>> amount of what kind conceivably go on. Popularly more things can >>>> go wrong than can go right. To go right is a knife edge no matter >>>> how right is defined. So this was not the topic of what I came >>>> back here to think about and to write to you about. Back here >>>> means back into another room where I have solace and quietude and >>>> the ability to think through these dialogues. Which are >>>> monologues. Although they may not seem as monologues. When I came >>>> back here to dictate the dialog or the monologue however I found >>>> that what had happened was as a result of fatigue and exhaustion >>>> and anxiety and depression and a wandering mind was I forgot the >>>> topic I had initially intended to discuss. I still no longer >>>> remember the topic. I don't remember a single bit of what I was >>>> going to talk about. So that philosophy that philosophical >>>> direction is lost and replated replaced that's that. That single >>>> philosophical direction is lost and replaced by this enormous >>>> affluence of wrong directions. The world is constructed of bubbles >>>> of wrong directions. Some of them work momentarily like the >>>> viruses. Some of them don't work at all. If there were going to be >>>> a >>>> >>>> It would begin now as such. And as you can see that has occurred. >>>> And will come to an end. If you deconstruct all of this you'll see >>>> the organization that underlies this and every aspect of a very >>>> problematic world it might in fact just touch on to the edge of >>>> our real one. 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