Hi Ana, I was thinking today or yesterday that a key feature of a labyrinth or maze is you can't solve it in advance then speed through. You have to experience it, and it has unpredictable or random features. This calls for a certain being present, with a place, time, and task or activity. The task has no purpose beyond its being experienced.
It's also a prehistoric art form, arguably, going back to stone circles or indigenous "medicine wheels," thus having omni-cultural aspects perhaps. There is often a link between microcosm and macrocosm implied or stated. I'm sure there must be electronic ways to mediate such an activity but since digital technology makes it so easy and profitable to script an environment, and since the body is somewhat excluded from electronic settings, that may be more the norm in our hopefully still early stages. I've never been to Chartres, but Warburgs Atlas has an unscripted "place" aspect to it, as may possibly the Berlin exhibit of Leonardo's Books by the Planck Institute till June 28 (where the artifacts are arranged kind of like maze they say, plus with a vortex of papers at the center, but still there is no travel there from here). I did see the 2019 showing at the Museo Galileo, which started off all my interest in Leonardo, so I'm interested to see what the virtual version of the Berlin exhibit is like. All best, Max https://www.mpiwg-berlin.mpg.de/research/exhibition/leonardos-intellectual-cosmos-2021 ________________________________ From: Ana Valdés <agora...@gmail.com> Sent: Monday, June 21, 2021 9:50 AM To: NetBehaviour for networked distributed creativity <netbehaviour@lists.netbehaviour.org> Cc: Max Herman <maxnmher...@hotmail.com> Subject: Re: [NetBehaviour] Netbehaviour list renewal - happy lurker I was once an avid sci-fi and phantasy reader read all Game of Thrones before the tv and the hype :) There is a great writer Roger Zelazny who wrote several books about a parallel world, Amber. There is a maze or labyrinth and only the ones who learn to navigate the maze and go trough the maze are worth to rule. I saw the maze at the cathedral of Chartres and it’s very interesting to see how the maze was used by the Templar’s the masons and the scholars studying the Kabbala. The maze as metaphor is very powerful. Ana On Mon, 21 Jun 2021 at 11:27, Max Herman via NetBehaviour <netbehaviour@lists.netbehaviour.org<mailto:netbehaviour@lists.netbehaviour.org>> wrote: Hi Jessica and happy solstice all! The giant labyrinth sounds intriguing. A very ancient form, and so different from one person making an art object then selling it to another. Perhaps the latter is the greatest illusion of all? A distraction in a maze. Labyrinths -- well I could go on and on. You enter, like a stone circle, then exit, but in imagination too. It's like conscious meditative time, both more and less individualized. As to poetics of imagination -- very relevant too I think. Poetics is not words only. In Leonardo's time they called the debate between poetry and painting, Dante and Apelles, the paragone for which is best, the paragon. Leonardo said they are the same art form, just differently focused for the eyes or ears in how we encounter them, both connecting to the imagination or sensus communis within the person. I think he wanted to create a visual counterpoint to Dante, in some ways, to demonstrate this. Theres a concept in meditation called "softening of vision," I think, which is very physically noticeable in contrast to rigid, brittle, narrow sight, I mean in the eyes. Seeing looks and feels different. Not sure how to articulate this with brevity but there might be something like it in sound and words too. I think of this phenomenon sometimes as a kind of poetics perhaps or part and electronic media have an effect on my experience of it not always for the better. All best regards, Max ________________________________ From: NetBehaviour <netbehaviour-boun...@lists.netbehaviour.org<mailto:netbehaviour-boun...@lists.netbehaviour.org>> on behalf of Jessica May via NetBehaviour <netbehaviour@lists.netbehaviour.org<mailto:netbehaviour@lists.netbehaviour.org>> Sent: Friday, June 18, 2021 4:16 PM To: NetBehaviour for networked distributed creativity <netbehaviour@lists.netbehaviour.org<mailto:netbehaviour@lists.netbehaviour.org>> Cc: Jessica May <jessmayr...@gmail.com<mailto:jessmayr...@gmail.com>> Subject: Re: [NetBehaviour] Netbehaviour list renewal - happy lurker I'm a new, Happy Lurker! Introduced recently by Adam (of 'A campfire in a ruin in a forest' post), I myself am not very at home in the digital realm. I am a woodland creature studying for an MA in 'The Poetics of Imagination' (!) at Dartington Arts School and helping build a giant labyrinth on Bodmin moor; but I am curious about how I stay abreast of all the exciting stuff that happens online, when I don't really want to be. And curious about the net as an imaginal space for the collective mind, obvs. This list seems intriguing, delightful, non techy, and full of strange and great minds. Please keep me onboard for now, and thanks for to those who facilitate :) On Fri, 18 Jun 2021 at 13:47, Irini Papadimitriou <ir...@futureeverything.org<mailto:ir...@futureeverything.org>> wrote: A happy lurker too:) I don't post here often, but this is a great place. I hugely respect what Ruth and Marc have been doing for all these years, and Furtherfield has been a great inspiration! Thank you! 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Tx On Mon, 14 Jun 2021, at 2:04 PM, j wrote: like many its one of the only lists I browse, occasionally with eyes bigger than brain, but never cursory adelante! jonathan On 14/6/21 10:48 pm, Ruth Catlow via NetBehaviour wrote: Thanks to everyone who already posted on this thread <3 <3 <3 For those that missed the discussion... We are proposing a Netbehaviour renewal process: Over a 1 month period starting now (14th June 2021) We invite all subscribers to do one of 3 things 1. Make a post on any topic or responding to anyone else's post 2. Send an email with "Happy Lurker" in the subject header (to the list or privately to me - if you prefer to remain incognito) 3. Do nothing. At the end of this time, moderators will 1. gather a list of everyone who posted 2. update subscribers on the proposal to unsubscribing everyone who hasn't posted and depending on what we all decide 3. unsubscribe everyone who we haven't heard from/ or do something else. In this way, we will get to know new people a little, and be able to better see ourselves collectively. There may be a bunch of people who prefer to go un-announced (that's fine too). If they are really keen but prefer not to send an email saying so they can always resubscribe. ======================== On Sat, Jun 12, 2021 at 8:00 PM James <jwm.art....@gmail.com<mailto:jwm.art....@gmail.com>> wrote: On Sat, 12 Jun 2021 at 15:05, Ruth Catlow via NetBehaviour <netbehaviour@lists.netbehaviour.org<mailto:netbehaviour@lists.netbehaviour.org>> wrote: Finally, I would be curious to hear your feelings about this proposal for list renewal. ======================= Over a 1 month period starting xxx We invite all subscribers to do one of 3 things 1. Make a post on any topic or responding to anyone else's post 2. Send an email with "Happy Lurker" in the subject header 3. Do nothing. At the end of this time, moderators could 1. gather a list of everyone who posted 2. unsubscribe everyone else. In this way we will know who we are, we will be able to see ourselves collectively and know who is in the woods. This is something we can do intermittently. ======================== If you all love, hate or have alternative suggestions to this idea I'd love to know. Hi Ruth, The invitation to post on any topic and/or respond to another post is a good one to open up discussion to broader topics. When I was more active on here I always took "networked distributed creativity" as something allowing me to post, but deliberately reading it as 'network distributed' rather than 'networked & distributed' - I'm quite useless at networking be it technologically, or socially and professionally. Creativity was to me always the thread weaving through it all - but I manage to see that thread pretty much in all aspects of my life however tenuously connected to the arts that may be - which is something I'm interested in posting about. 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