What is Philosophy? I have boundless faith in the answer. by Maria Damon and Alan Sondheim http://www.alansondheim.org/wild.jpg Part One Part One. It should be able to then it says dictation isn't fully supported in this app but that's OK because if we want to make mistakes that's going to be fine too do you see I see said the blind man that's me the blind man I'm not saying you're blind I'm saying yeah I know I get it yeah OK so so we doing it now we seem to be OK we could get help or we could exit we should stay here as long as we can now this will fill up and stop working and then we'll have to start it again OK OK so are we just what I thought we would discuss instead of war because we're always talking about war is warm warm I like that warm though yeah warm stuff warm see now it has to catch up your warm stuff warm stuff warmth warmth no it's got no it's that that's perfect that's that's perfect so it's going going hurrah going hurrah warmth warmth OK well I feel warm toward you right now Alan I feel warm towards you and then too warm out though it it is tomorrow well we were talking about OK I'm gonna stop it for a SEC . So we were talking about 1971 I think 1972 night 1972 did anything happen in 1972 I when 19 junior in high school and I was a grandfather no I went I was not a grandfather in 1972 no definitely not I was not a grandfather I might have been a grandmother or wished I was a grandmother but my grandmother was still alive I think I don't think mine were I don't think I had any of the grand people's still alive then my grandmother died at the age of 103 Oh my God I'm so sorry for you because it means you're gonna have to live that long I don't think so that was just one side of the family . When you say. Then it does that magically appears and magically appears yes so so was 1971 a better year than 1972 I'm not sure I'm trying to remember where I was I think both of those years I think I was actually in Soho I think I finally made it to Soho and I think I had three records out by then records not CD's or anything were those the best years of your life they were probably the best and worst years of my life am I like I I wrote recently that my life seems to have been the same all the way along in other words it's not like I feel closer to death now I felt just as close to death back then for example and I have memories now that are from like a week ago but I have memories also from . Now perhaps it will allow us to continue but I have memories that go back from when I was around 14 or 13 and was thinking of self harm and things like that already at that age and that sort of stuff it's just it's just continue from from them so it's it's like a series of images that will he said waving his arms around wildlife series of images that well just stop at a point a series of images related to self harm no no no no no related to past history about you .Yeah do you feel that you are different than than you are now yeah yeah it was much more raw I didn't have any sense that my feelings were normal I I there were there were no standards there was no education about my internal life so I thought there was something wrong with having an internal vivid internal life I thought it was abnormal I didn't realize that everyone has a vivid internal life . I had a I thought I I thought I was abnormal yeah me too I thought I was and I thought my sexuality which was all over the map what is abnormal at that time Yep same pure feel that way anymore well that's not entirely true I don't feel that way with the same degree of anguish or intensity . Oh I do I I that that stayed with me sort of all my life and the and the trauma I was telling you about the trauma I had when years and years and years ago and that trauma has stayed with me all my life so I feel I've been damaged by it adorno talks about. Adorno talks Talks about a damaged life in minimum morality I think that's his you know reflections from a damaged life or something like that and that phrase took stuck with me and when I had my first industrial music group years and years ago we called it damaged life and we still have cassette tapes from that. That would be cool to hear sometime Oh yeah I can put them on anytime they're still on cassette you know . So can you say something then about your relationship to Iggy Pop Iggy Pop or to yeah to Umm well Iggy was the burst of energy that erupted inside of me and I was completely unprepared for it I didn't ask for it to happen I was deeply into tick nahan and kind of calming all the emotions and a certain kind of self-care and then here comes this kid from the screen of YouTube just completely metallic KO I was on the floor for years knocked out by his energy and the masterful way in which he performed they're kind of teetering on the edge of transcendence and a basement that in a lot of ways that esthetic pool has defined my inner life that's what I have to say about Iggy Pop . That's actually brilliant I'm surprised . I was more interested in why I wasn't Bob Dylan. I wanted to be like Bob Dylan I wanted to walk like Bob Dylan I remember trying to walk like Bob Dylan and then when I met Vito acconci I tried to walk like Vito acconci believe it or not and I seemed more successful at that because it was more give and take with with veto than it was with Bob Dylan who I never met although I have memories of being on stage with Bob Dylan because I think it was at Carnegie Hall he had some concert where they ran out of seats and the people who are overflow were on stage grounding him and I remember being one of them but it could be a false memory why me I actually tried to. I actually tried to find out and I did find that he had a New York concert at Carnegie Hall at the time that I thought I was on stage with with Bob Dylan so I was probably on stage with Bob Dylan are there pictures from the time showing that there were people seated on stage I don't that I don't know I never looked for for pictures up interest awaits the oh God . Partout. So if this is like a performed conversation then is it also like a poetry reading and if I keep going down that road won't this become so self referential it'll sound like poetry it already is it already is and then maybe we should back out and try to open the garage door and take another car . I think it's far more self referential than poetry because a lot of poetry relies either on unusual language or unusual imagery and this does neither it just relies on personal anecdote well wouldn't you say however, Maria, that in a sense all poetry and all language can be nothing more than personal anecdote because someone is always doing the speaking even if no one is listening? What did you just say what what huh all language all language could be nothing more than personal anecdote because someone is always doing the speaking even if no one is listening ? ID in particular does anyone really listen to poetry well Jack Spicer had something to say about that but it's so threadbare that I won't bore you with the particulars . Well but if no one is listening to Jack Spicer then no one really it doesn't really matter whether he said it or not this is philosophy beyond my pay grade or should I say beneath my pay grade . Well changing the subject to your turn goes to hold forth on some yes hold 4th or 5th as the case may be five fingers and each one of them has a tale to tell full of wrinkles and slugs and nubs of knuckles and bubbles and fluffles and kerfuffle . Well would you like to tell one of those tales I will I will tell the tale of the index finger the index finger is by nature a happy soul . I would assume you would apply some more to the feet for example where the index toe is connected to the sole directly I cannot point at any took at I cannot point at anything with any toe other than my big toe so is that my index toe ? It does seem to me that the other toes and this may not be the case but I believe it is that the other toes are also pointing it's just that they're very very subtle . Do you realize that when you point your big toe at someone and accusing them of something there are four smaller toes pointing back at you accusing you of the same thing . Partridge. I always thought the other toes the other four toes were applauding . Well that's really sweet . _______________________________________________ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@lists.netbehaviour.org https://lists.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
