Hi Alan,
I agree as you say "Frankenstein has already won".
>The worldwide pain through violence (not just Ukraine), famine,
>sickness, (un)natural catastrophe is enormous. And to be honest,
>no artist or artwork, I truly believe, is going to change this.
Again, I agree with what you say. I would not think you're being a Luddite,
although I wouldn't mind being called a Luddite because they bashed technology
against oppression, not because they were against technology itself, it was to
save the future of their own self-run businesses, communities and families.
>And to be honest, no artist or artwork, I truly believe, is going
>to change this. I think LARP might help a great deal if somehow
>diplomats were engaged.
I don't believe no artist or artwork 'themselves' will change it. I think it's
about living the the troubles and surviving - dealt to us all by the soulless
elites. We all know it will not stop and it's like a runaway train smashing
into a brick wall. Yet, out of the collapse it's necessary to maintain
allegiances, keep connected somehow, build resilience, because it's gonna get
worse than it is now. And we all need each other, to support each other,
through this deeply dark period of our lives.
>That said, the book is great, it points to all of this, telling
>the truth and telling it slant (Dickenson, yes?), and more like
>it might well move things along, a little, in the right (left)
>direction.
I've been getting some amazing feedback about the book from all kinds of
people. What's especially reassuring, is that some of them are not directly
involved in art and media art culture - which really cheers me up.
"The struggle with trying to exist within massive systems and structures
designed by elite patriarchs is a never-ending journey. However, it’s also a
journey of self-discovery that brings rewards such as meeting great people and
inspiring friendships. It is a web of confusing and complex experiences and
emerging pieces of knowledge that always requires constant attention."
Wishing you well
Marc
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On Saturday, September 3rd, 2022 at 16:16, Alan Sondheim <sondh...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> Hi, Also thought this was an excellent review. One Luddite comment of my own
> - currently my Fb feed is filled with people using AI for illustration based
> on suggestive input; it also has a lot of NFT work.
> I think that Frankenstein has already won, especially since my other feed -
> news from various sources including CSIS (Center for International Strategic
> Studies), various non-US newsfeeds, etc. etc., stresses the hard work and
> thinking that has to be done now if the planetary (wounded) ecosystem is to
> survive. Pointing to the problemic or reiterating it is also not the solution
> and to be honest I'm at a loss; my own work contributes nothing either in
> that direction. We don't have to re-imagine or reconfigure Frankenstein; they
> are already reconfiguring us. The worldwide pain through violence (not just
> Ukraine), famine, sickness, (un)natural catastrophe is enormous. And to be
> honest, no artist or artwork, I truly believe, is going to change this. I
> think LARP might help a great deal if somehow diplomats were engaged. But my
> god..., the pain and suffering worldwide is out of anyone's control. That
> said, the book is great, it points to all of this, telling the truth and
> telling it slant (Dickenson, yes?), and more like it might well move things
> along, a little, in the right (left) direction -
> Best, Alan, apologies if I sound like a broken record -
>
> On Sat, Sep 3, 2022 at 7:04 AM marc.garrett via NetBehaviour
> <netbehaviour@lists.netbehaviour.org> wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> Just saw a review of Frankenstein Reanimated and because some of you on the
>> list are in the book I thought you'd be interested in reading it.
>>
>> Mytho recommends (Phil Smith):
>>
>> Frankenstein Reanimated: Creation & Technology in the 21st Century (Eds.
>> Marc Garrett & Yiannis Colakides) Torque Editions, 2022
>> https://www.facebook.com/mythogeography/posts/5907704932592518
>>
>> This has been a very strange read for me. I have no attraction to or
>> understanding of the technical side of programming. I read Erik Davis’s
>> ‘TechGnosis’ back in 1998 when it first came out and, already anti-gnostic
>> and anti-transcendentalist, my suspicions about an information-based society
>> were heightened. I have pretty much remained that way ever since; extending
>> my wariness to information technology-based arts. Perhaps, I just haven’t
>> seen that wonderful piece to change my mind, though even one of the artists
>> interviewed in ‘Frankenstein Reanimated’ worries at the “VR Headsets that
>> provide clothes for hackneyed metaphors”.
>>
>> What brought me to read the book is my engagement with Mary Shelley’s novel
>> ‘Frankenstein or The Modern Prometheus’, co-writing a stage adaptation
>> (which also drew on the Universal movies) back in 2005, which has continued
>> to tour intermittently ever since and was last year turned into a musical at
>> the Deutsches Theater in Munich. The early parts of ‘Frankenstein
>> Re-Animated’ address the abiding significance of the novel in some detail,
>> and then the interviews with various ‘media artists’ take over – a monster
>> taking control of its own life – and the book moves further away from Mary
>> Shelley and her engagement with stitching flesh and sparking philosophy in
>> dead brain matter.
>> In his preface, Yiannis Colakides describes “a widening knowledge-gap in the
>> use and understanding of technologies” between hackers who operate as a
>> “vectoralist class.... [who] control.... information flows; and the majority
>> who are all too often taken for a ride by their technologies”. It is this
>> problematic relationship that seems to haunt – as Mary Shelley’s monster
>> plagues its creator, asking difficult questions and exacting revenge – the
>> artworks that ‘Frankenstein Reanimated’ describes and discusses. In the vast
>> majority of the examples – drawn from exhibitions in Gíjon, London and
>> Limassol – the technologies are deployed to critique and even undo
>> themselves; many draw on what Marc Garrett describes as the effects of the
>> new technologies to “have profoundly displaced and decentred how we
>> understand humans and humanity’s agency and corporality” in order to explore
>> those displacements and decentrings in what Gregory Sholette and Olga
>> Kopenkina call the “capitalist-realist... un-present”.
>>
>> Artworks explore the “potential harm of recognition technology”, how
>> technology carries racial assumptions as ‘universals’; gallery visitors are
>> drawn into making and choosing assumptions for image filtration. But when an
>> artist says “What is amazing to me.... is that people really get into
>> labelling each other” you want to shout back – ‘but that is what your
>> artwork asks them to do!’ Rather like the options in Luke Rhinehart’s
>> (George Cockcroft’s) ‘The Dice Man’ (1971) or Marina Abramovic’s Rhythm 0
>> (1974) – why are the options of sexual assault, a bullet and a gun, even in
>> there? There is an inbuilt manipulation that looks like choice or agency; an
>> implication and incorporation that is within the very structures and
>> techniques of the works that both address their themes in critique and enact
>> them simultaneously. It is jaw-dropping to read an artist who first explains
>> their work as “inspired.... by reading... about the autonomous weapons
>> systems... which... ‘conflate the act of seeing and killing’” and then, on
>> being asked to explain why the “visual universe” of their piece is “so cold
>> and clean”, replies that it is “just a pragmatic choice.... everything that
>> I am not trying to point to is at default value”.
>>
>> But wasn’t Mary Shelley starting with a default value, with a dismembered
>> body/bodies, bringing the default of the graveyard to life and not only
>> asking questions of it, but having it ask questions of everything. Pushing
>> the new technologies beyond their functional limits often has intriguing and
>> attention-grabbing effects, distorting figures and landscapes in ways
>> reminiscent of historical and contemporary human artists, but then the
>> suspicion is all the time that these effects are the remnants of the art
>> history education of the programmers rather than any novel interruption of
>> productions of the obvious. It is disheartening to read an artist bemoan
>> “the pre-existing bias of my initial dataset... The results may have been
>> further distorted by technical bias due to technical constraints of the
>> algorithm”. As artist Mary Flanagan says, almost in despair: “I keep
>> wondering why we are on this quest to make artificial systems emotive....
>> why we invent things just to invent them, thinking that somehow anything new
>> improves our lives”. And yet the artworks keep on coming as each new wave of
>> artists ‘discovers’ the possibilities of (and funding for) arts and new
>> technologies.
>>
>> If I came away with a slightly refined animosity, I would not want to
>> discourage anyone from reading this book; it is endlessly fascinating. It
>> never flinches from the difficulty of this work and the mind-bending tangles
>> that contort the artists working with it, often in interfaces with
>> terrifying state and fiscal systems. Paul Vanousse’s article (he was
>> investigated by the FBI who attempted to enter his studio and home, two of
>> his previous collaborators were prosecuted) is a welcome reminder of just
>> how dangerous some of these themes/threats can be.
>>
>> ‘Frankenstein Reanimated’ is perhaps most powerful and engaging when it
>> addresses the technology not as a “tool” or an expansion of the artists’
>> themes, but as an agency in itself: “a growing chorus of techno-objects that
>> insistently asks us to drill the Arctic, build pipelines, burn coal”
>> (Eugenio Tisselli). The “monster” does not feed us, it wants us to feed it,
>> otherwise, it threatens, it will takes its revenge; those who serve and obey
>> it can participate in its feeding frenzy “where the secret sauce of memetic
>> media meets the magic sauce of right-wing billionaires, underwriting
>> political campaigns to facilitate a wholesale move to the hard right” (Ami
>> Clarke). But as Mary Flanagan says: “why are we on this quest?”
>>
>> Anyone interested in a copy go here -
>> https://torquetorque.net/publications/frankenstein-reanimated/
>>
>> Wishing you well
>>
>> Marc
>>
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